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yeah i try to take letro e3d i did order erase though. I got sore left nipple, hurts like hell.. It's weird I've been up to 1g of test and never had gyno issues... only time i had gyno issues have been via tren and via dbol. Now I know hcg hates me lol.
Can't wait to get the daa and erase. I wonder what else i could employ to speed up the process/quality. So feeling out of myself it's totally weird... it's not as bad as last year but I did shrink fast and put on fat/softened up/lost definition :( My work outs are alot less volume as i dont wana overtrain/kill the little muscle i hve. Went from my usual 4-5 sets to 3 sets on exercises.
Hoping for them boys to produce sperm and then freeze them and go through ivf+ics over again, get problem solved, jump back on. Enjoy having a child, enjoy the gains/personal quality of life back.
Despite odds I always work hard and don't give up... been through alot over the years, no excuse to stop now in anything... and I love bodybuilding way too much. It sucks feeling small in the gym lol, while some guys look at you how you workout hard/intense at every rep and they are bigger at the moment and wonder.
I'm just using 7oxo transdermal, not sure if that has negative impact on sperm but cortisol must be whack...
Really can't wait to have a kid as my wife and I have been trying naturally for the longest time. Today I was enjoying playing with my nieces, they are so cute :)
Libido is nill, and this sore nipple is annoying as hell.. somehow today im not feeling as bad as the other day though. I dosed letro 2.5mg yesterday. I am getting blood work in next few days. I'm sure my estrogen is waaay up from the hcg. I was taking 1000iu ED as the doc said pre-ivf procedure but it was a fail as mentioned.
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^Repped for truth. It's good you are listening to the doc, A_Ahmed.
You can always look forward to using again later down the road. It is going to be more important to keep an eye on your diet in the meantime (I see you mentioned fat gain), which is never fun. Just keep lifting heavy and keep your eye on the prize.
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Personally I would much rather not have children. Mostly because I hate children so very much.
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Yeah we need less of yous.
Anyways I love children and really want to have children. Always have loved children actually :) Eventually you'll mature, get married, and want to have children. Alot of people say they 'hate children' when they are younger or some such stupid comments/thoughts but eventually they regret that.
Took 1.25mg letrozole today. Still sore nipple, but feeling better today. My workouts are okay... i pushed myself a bit more last workout... Took muscle marinade and ephedrine. Kind of feeling horny today... I am assuming some test production is happening... balls havent really become that much bigger but are hanging... Obviously still a difference in how I feel vs when i was on trt but at least im not a wreck like last year... so far so good.
Who knows maybe ill regain mass/strength while just on this due to muscle memory then when i actually get back on trt and cycle > explode better than ever. I just for one thing I can't mess with my diet while in this stage one bit. I never do but just saying... Even though I have barely or no appetite right now and usually im hungry like a HORSE ALL THE TIME... i am force feeding myself calculated calories
Just musn't ever give up and have a strong will to push forward.
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Feeling like death today... still waiting on the DAA and clomid. Still on hcg doc doses. Starting to feel like last year. I am getting fat and losing mass. 16 days since last test shot. Rapid body changes for the lose... but also feeling so frickin horrible... Switching back and forth between weak/timid and angry/agitated.... This sperm better produce good and fast... don't know how long I can take being off of trt... Affecting my work at work too... so out of focus. Doing total shit in the gym too. Few days back I felt good somehow, I felt like there was a test spike, even had wood... and then bam... total death today...
Now in retrospect I understand how last year when i was 'eating right' and training 'right' but i was still getting fatter and weaker and people were like "whaa? you doing it wrong" lol... fuck low and high test really makes a difference in one's physical being and overall well being...
Dumbass DHL and fedex screwed up delivery [I]AGAIN[/I] (not first time) and I paid for the most expensive express shipping too... dumbasses....
Staring back and forth at my test vials and wana smash head against wall lol... (not srs)... last year's 8 months of death feeling were quite the horrid experience... frickin 16 days in now and its not going well... seeing endo on sunday no sooner faaawkkkkk :( Feel like bouncing around on head around the room (srs) feeling insane/horrible.
The agitation I feel with low test feels that much worse than any androgenic steroid for me lol... and i cant focus in anything im doing
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Hope this works out for you and the wifey. Sounds like a slippery slope, but keep typing/venting and know at the end of all this, the gift of life could be yours... if the price is right!(SORRY, I couldn't help myself). Foreal though, keep at it brother, you know your priorities.
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The mood swings are horrible....... and you feel helpless for no reason lol... or sad or weak or whatever... can't explain it... worst feeling in the world... and yet everyone around you is nice, cool, friendly, comforting, etc.... and you are like wth?!?! I got a great family and they're great to me... but hard to explain how you feel as it's so out of this world... like you can appear 'healthy' (physical fitness aside) quote unquote on the outside but feeling terrible on the inside.
Two problems i have is #1 test issues #2 insulin sensitivity. I've managed to finally get everything under control via TRT + recompadrol (pretty much same effect as glucophage -- never tried it but everyone says it -- minus the liver toxicity of glucophage).. I have been running ghrp6 since february and recently switched to ipamorelin.
I was eating 4000-4500 calories, getting stronger, leaner just perfect constant progress/good feelings.
Now im on ipamorelin and recompadrol but i still get no muscle pumps.. it feels no matter what i eat i dont have energy still.. no refilling of glycogen stores.. just getting flatter/softer.... and fatter at the waist it sucks... yesterday i ate 3000 calories and today so far about the same.... yet im still 'fattening' at the waist i feel 'bloated' in the waist and soft all around. If it was mere estrogen bloat id still get muscle hardness but i get nothing...
I noticed since i started test if i did weekly shots only i would within the first three days get a surge of well being/muscle hardness and then until the next shot decline. For the majority of the year i split my doses so i was constant all week long monday/friday. Now in ramadan i got tired of shooting twice a week and i was shooting once a week last time 16 days ago. I noticed the same effect that i was hard/vascular until the next shot. Now forget vascularity just fat crap... its like wow so fast all that mass kapow and fat kaboom.
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Did the DAA and clomid get there yet? Hopefuly those will help out. Resveratrol might be a good addition as well some kind herbal aphrodisiac/test booster like a testofen product or maybe this Triazole stuff...for me they give more of a libido boost and that alpha feeling than DAA or a SERM. Rooting for you! Let us know how things go
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I feel you brother I've been on trt test cyp for 2 months myself and there is such a big difference between how I feel now and how I felt before. Lucky for me I just had a child few months ago but want to have one down the road. When I talked to my endo he said something about hcg/clomid if the sperm count is too low and obviously staying off test.
Good luck to you!
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Really having a hard time eating and not eating... appetite is messed up... i force feed myself but its like food feels disgusting :(
Was a horrible day yesterday. Woke up in middle of night feeling as horrible as last night and could not sleep. I took 2x casein scoop (it comes with aspartic acid apparently but im not sure if it does the same trick as d-aspartic acid).. and i injected 1000iu hcg i couldnt sleep...
I then woke up in morning sweating heavily changed cloths and went back to sleep... feeling 'okay' this morning but not driven... just not as nightmare as last night... waist definetely grew... it sucks but hey... ill get it all back.. def doing a comback with superdrol and heavy caloric surplus after all this shit is done...
Will be hopefully getting daa and erase today clomid probably next week slow ass mail :(
Now feeling 'okay'... so unstable though... :(
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Get some normal (i.e. not chicken and brown rice) food, not eat too much though. Take it easy with your workouts and meal plans and it will only benefit you further down the road.
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honestly i love chicken and brown rice call me crazy but its like any food i feel disgusted from... today my appetite is a bit better as i think the hcg spiked the test a bit... getting daa and erase today for sure...
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Muscularity, Good moods, more aesthetic, no worry of kids. TRT sounds like a godsend!
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lol no TESTOSTERONE is a God sent.... when its naturally produced :P
I love kids, all these guys who diss having kids will eventually regret it.
Besides we'd all die off if our reproductive system was not fully functional. Stop hatin'
Majority of the studies/articles/etc... I read all point to an overall global decline especially in western countries of testosterone and of sperm count.
Particularly having to do with environmental chemicals, such as plastics, xenohormones, pesticides, estrogens, the way food is farmed, produced, preservatives all kinds of crazy things which in essence make men have less testosterone and less sperm.
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[QUOTE=a_ahmed;787922]lol no TESTOSTERONE is a God sent.... when its naturally produced :P
I love kids, all these guys who diss having kids will eventually regret it.
Besides we'd all die off if our reproductive system was not fully functional. Stop hatin'
Majority of the studies/articles/etc... I read all point to an overall global decline especially in western countries of testosterone and of sperm count.
Particularly having to do with environmental chemicals, such as plastics, xenohormones, pesticides, estrogens, the way food is farmed, produced, preservatives all kinds of crazy things which in essence make men have less testosterone and less sperm.[/QUOTE]
I never dissed having kids. I my self already have a daughter who I love very much. She might not have been planned but that means nothing.. I'm only saying for me now, I would be fine being infertile because I'm not going to want kids for a long time or any more for that matter. Im happy with and proud of my daughter.
Not sure why you thought I was "Hatin" lol.
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Anyways hater :P I got DAA and erase... Feeling 'okay'... not like few days ago where i was feeling like nightmare... and still waiting on clomid. So hopefully this protocol will keep me alive and well until the sperm extraction and then adios back to trt :D
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Why has god forsaken you?
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[QUOTE=Mike_RN;788674]Why has god forsaken you?[/QUOTE]
:dylon::thefuk::whatruthinkin::soniamdissapoint::facepalm:
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I'm just curious why a man, who blames the earthquake and hurricane on the US, Christianity and he support of Israel; would not be concerned his own tribulations might be because he himself has offended god? Simple question.
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You said you have nothing against islam or muslims or me, yet you are here to troll on yet another thread of mine pertaining to my health, a very common issue dealing with hormones on a forum of hormones. That's amusing.
The same kind of accusations were flaunted at prophet Job (peace be upon him), where those who he preached to and hated his message called him out on his misfortunes and told him God does not love you, or God forsaked you, etc... although it was hurtful to him he still did not lose his faith.
He was a man who was left alone, lost all the worldly pleasures, his family, his community mocked him, his health, a disease which was considered as a 'curse' by the superstitious of his time, etc... Did God 'abandon him', no God was testing him and he came out stronger, with a new family, well being, worldly things and the after life, etc... Job is one of the most difficulty enduring prophets and he was patient. A very patient and persevering person despite all odds.
Now please stick to the miscellaneous section for this kind of 'debate' as this is my thread on fertility and trt.
As far as Prophet Job (Ayub) -- peace be upon him) was concerned in the qur'an:
"Truly adversity has afflicted me and You are Most Merciful of all who show mercy." (Surah 21: Verse 83)
"Then We heard his prayer and removed that adversity from which he suffered, and We gave him his household and the like thereof along with them, a mercy from Our store and remembrance for the worshippers." (Surah 21: Verse 84)
"And surely we try you with something of fear and hunger, and loss of wealth and crops, but give glad-tidings to the steadfast, who when a misfortune befalls them, say lo! we are Allah's (possession of Allah) and to Him shall we surely return. · Such are they on whom are blessings from their Lord, and mercy. Such are the rightly-guided." (Surah 2 : Verse 155-157)
Verily, with every difficulty there is relief. (Surah 94:5-6)
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You complained to a bunch of strangers about stopping Test because of infertilty...about how horrible it is for you etc. Many folks anwered you sincerely and you felt ashamed so you back pedaled and began to mold a diferent tale.
I troll you because you are a troll ahmed. I don't think anyone here will dispute me on that point...with the exception of your muslim brothers and I often feel that you embarrass them as well.
Like me or leave me the truth hurts.
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...btw if a doctor advises HCG & Clomid that doesn't mean start DAA and Erase.
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Aaaannndd derailed...should be an interesting flame thread though
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You show your true colors that's fine by me.
How am I embarrassed of what? That I need TRT and that it affects my livelihood?
The doctor is aware that I'm taking DAA he said it was a great idea. You just wana try to put me down anyway possible, shows what a douchebag you are. It's really childish but I see right through it, try to find any weakness or possible attack point to make me look foolish or bad, that's very sweet of you :) Keep trying, your efforts are futile. It just shows weakness on your part, you're not the first person I've encountered to act like that. When you have nothing better to prove or argue with you will resort to trying to pinpoint weaknesses or faults or make some up to level me down in some way and make yourself more credible :) That's very sweet of you.
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Good luck in all that you endeavor towards, I love you ahmed, you win...I may even convert.
