I dont see anything bad that warrants a pct. Everything appears normal to me. I would do the testforce anyway. We all can use the extra testosterone.

wow... I gues Patrick Arnold wasnt lying when he said no pct required... how were the results?

Thanks! Sounds great on the no-PCT necessary.

Since I already purchased another blood test I figure I will run the Testforce for 26 days straight and get tested on the morning of the 27th. I don't think I've seen any bloodwork yet from someone using it so I would like to do it and post the results. That way everyone can see solid proof of how well it works as opposed to me just saying that my libido is up and I'm as hard as Michael Jackson in a kindergarten class. Plus that wouldn't be a good measure for me at my age because I don't know if my drive could possibly increase anymore...I kinda hope not.

I will keep you guys posted.

edit: Tyler here is the link to my pics and review.
11 OXO Before/After Pics

The results were great and I'm glad everything came back good. I thought no pct required at 600mg was too good to be true too, but PA wasn't lying.

Originally Posted by thepunisher000

I had lab work done yesterday (female hormone panel). Dosed 11 oxo 450mg for 4 weeks and 600mg for 2 weeks. I wanted to get some opinions on how to dose my PCT. I planned on using Testforce and Reversitol V2 for PCT. I haveNolva on hand, even though 11oxo is "weak" I'd rather be safe than sorry. Unfortunately I didn't get pre-cycle tests to get a feel for my baseline

Any opinions are appreciated.

CBC Result, Flag, Reference Interval
WBC 5.8 4.0-10.5
RBC 4.57 4.10-5.60
Hemoglobin 14.6 12.5-17.0
Hematocrit 43.7 36.0-50.0
MCV 96 80-98
MCH 31.9 27.0-34.0
MCHC 33.4 32.0-36.0
RDW 12.9 11.7-15.0
Platelets 241 140-415
Neutrophils 45 40-74
Lymphs 44 14-46
Monocytes 9 4-13
Eos 2 0-7
Basos 0 0-3
Neutrophils (Absolute) 2.6 1.8-7.8
Lymphs (Absolute) 2.6 0.7-4.5
Monocytes (Absolute 0.5 0.1-1.0
Eos (Absolute) 0.1 0.0-0.4
Baso (Absolute) 0.0 0.0-0.2
Immature Granulocytes 0 0-1
Immature Grans (Abs) 0.0 0.0-0.1

Comp. Metabolic Panel
Glucose, Serum 78 65-99
BUN 15 5-26
Creatinine, Serum 0.90 0.76-1.27
eGFR >59 >59
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 17 8-27
Sodium, Serum 139
Potassium, Serum 4.0
Chloride, Serum 100
Carbon Dioxide, Total 26
Calcium, Serum 9.1
Protein, Total, Serum 6.4
Albumin, Serum 4.3
Globulin, Total 2.1
A/G Ratio 2.0
Bilirubin, Total 0.3
Alkaline Phosphatase, S 71
AST (SGOT) 42 High 0-40
ALT (SGPT) 35 0-55
Luteinizing Hormone (LH), S
LH 3.2 1.7-8.6
Testosterone, Serum
Testosterone, Serum 555 280-800
Estradiol
Estradiol 18.7 7.6-42.6
FSH, Serum
FSH 1.9 1.5-12.4

you dont need PCT

you are fine

but i will take your money if you insist

Ha thanks! Since you already have some of my money and I have the Testforce I am going to run it anyway. I figure it can't hurt, plus I'd like to get lab work afterwards to see how much it changes.

I will let you know. I'm taking it 2x a day for the first 9 days and once a day for the last 8 days. The reason for doubling up is that I will be out of town later this month and I would rather have the test done before (the 16th) I leave, while I'm training and eating the same.

Just to be clear, these bloods were taken just as you finished your cycle?

very nice, this thread gave me a boner for my 11-oxo run =]

Yes, the day after my last dose the blood was drawn.

Originally Posted by thepunisher000

Yes, the day after my last dose the blood was drawn.

wow that is amazing

Very impressive.

looking forward to your next lab results

Instead of purchasing additional supplements for this cycle Patrick Arnold might accept money as a way of saying Thank you. . . For all his past efforts.


Just saying. Not that you have to do it. But PA might like it.

Originally Posted by TheYoungBlood

Instead of purchasing additional supplements for this cycle Patrick Arnold might accept money as a way of saying Thank you. . . For all his past efforts.


Just saying. Not that you have to do it. But PA might like it.

sex is an option too

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

sex is an option too

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

sex is an option too

So you say towards poster with the name of "Punisher".

Originally Posted by gib68sg

Haha, nah I'll just stick with purchasing more Testforce to show my appreciation. I'd be curious to see what changes would result from larger doses (9-12g) per day for a month or longer.

what were final bloodwork numbers with test force?

Originally Posted by TheOne310

what were final bloodwork numbers with test force?

i think it was something like test increases of 111 percent, 56%, and 12%. the 12% guy had 45% LH and FSH increases oddly, which suggests he may have had some issues with testicular responsiveness

these have been posted in a few places

remember a lot of people using EPharms DAa product have been suppressing there natural testosterone I would like to see someone who has never used any suppressing drugs before use this stuff. any lab results on that?

Originally Posted by Happy234

remember a lot of people using EPharms DAa product have been suppressing there natural testosterone I would like to see someone who has never used any suppressing drugs before use this stuff. any lab results on that?

we specifically recruited natural bodybuilders who have never taken anythign hormonal. those are the people that did the blood tests