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clen and/or t3 what was your results

This is a discussion on clen and/or t3 what was your results within the Fat Loss Discussion forums, part of the Bodybuilding Discussion category; I am going to start my first ph cycle sometime in February, consisting of UD/D-plex with proper supports. and i ...

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    clen and/or t3 what was your results


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    I am going to start my first ph cycle sometime in February, consisting of UD/D-plex with proper supports. and i was wondering how clen and t3 are used (are they considered a ph? i know they are very potent), as far as can they be used along side a ph stack? or do they need to be ran pre/post, ive been told it doesn't matter just 2-3 weeks on 2 weeks off. I believe i know how clen works, its a b2 blocker basically and t3 is a support. it was originally used as asthma medication.

    i was looking to purchase some from purity or extreme peptides. anyone used either of these? thanks your your input!
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    Going by your post I don't think you're ready for either. T3 is not a support, it is a thyroid hormone and will suppress your natural thyroid production. Clen is no joke and if used improperly can have some serious side effects, and it's not a PH it's a very potent beta 2 agonist. I have used clen with great results but I won't touch t3 because I'm not comfortable messing with my thyroid. It's your first cycle so just stick with the PH first and don't mess around with clen or t3 until you have done a lot more research, neither are something to dive into without having a full understanding of what they do and how to use them. Also you're not supposed to source post aside from Purity since they are a sponsor.

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    ive ran both, clen was ok worked not too bad. if ya really wanna shed fat fast t3 is the bomb but you have to be careful. i like to run it on short bursts...2-3 weeks at longest followed by a few weeks off. ive since had blood tests and they came back fine. i started at 50mg and then went to 75-80mg a day, i didnt want to push the doses too high
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    i have read that t3 will result in some degrees of muscle atrophy as well as the shutdown of thyroid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilskirnir View Post
    Going by your post I don't think you're ready for either. T3 is not a support, it is a thyroid hormone and will suppress your natural thyroid production. Clen is no joke and if used improperly can have some serious side effects, and it's not a PH it's a very potent beta 2 agonist. I have used clen with great results but I won't touch t3 because I'm not comfortable messing with my thyroid. It's your first cycle so just stick with the PH first and don't mess around with clen or t3 until you have done a lot more research, neither are something to dive into without having a full understanding of what they do and how to use them. Also you're not supposed to source post aside from Purity since they are a sponsor.
    that is the whole reason i posted this is to gain a better understanding of these products aside from reading articles, peer opinion is they only other way to go about research. I do not have any interest in taking either of them at the moment, but i am interested in Clen in the future. thanks for your response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobyoung View Post
    i have read that t3 will result in some degrees of muscle atrophy as well as the shutdown of thyroid.
    forgot to mention i ran mine while on test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobyoung View Post
    that is the whole reason i posted this is to gain a better understanding of these products aside from reading articles, peer opinion is they only other way to go about research. I do not have any interest in taking either of them at the moment, but i am interested in Clen in the future. thanks for your response.
    Then for future use, I start at 40mcgs and ramp up 20mcgs every few days until I reach 160mcgs. 2 weeks on/2 weeks off. Supplement extra potassium and taurine while using it. I would not advise running it with a first PH cycle though since you don't know how you'll be responding to either and both have the potential to spike blood pressure. And yes, T3 will eat muscle if you are not on a strong anabolic at the same time. Most who use t3 run it with test.

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    increased temp, sweating, increased energy. did you have jitter spells during the day dosing it that high? it has a half life of 12 hours so i've read, so i'm guessing you took it in the morning what did it affect your sleep?

    i would more than likely go with clen and keto, i havent herd near as much negativity.

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    Half life is around 36 hours, not 12. Increased temp yes. Sweating, yes, excessively. Energy the first week then not so much. I only get jitters the first few days on, after that they go away and don't bother me even at higher doses. Yes take it in the morning, 6 am or so is when I always dose it. Didn't bother my sleep any. Only thing I hate about clen is shin splints, potassium and taurine will help it a bit but not completely eliminate it at least for me.

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    Started Clen today. First time I have run it. Took 25 mcgs at 8AM, and 25 at Noon.

    I walked for 20 minutes (fast paced high incline), and ran for another 10 minutes this morning before work. Just wanted to get a quick 30 minutes of cardio in.

    The only thing I noticed is a half hour after dosing it both times I get a little light headed. And my face feels funny (not hot, more like warm but asleep?!?)

    I plan to stay at this dosage for one more day then I will up it by 20mcg's every 2 days to see where my tolerance level is at.

    I do feel rather awake and alert.

    As far as T3 goes I used that with my last cycle.

    I think it was bunk or grossly underdosed as I noticed little to no effect, I ran it up to 100mcg's. The T3 I got tasted like Grape Koolaid or more like Dimetap cough medicine. I will be running it again for an up coming cycle of Epi and 11-OXO.

    I experienced no thyroid shutdown, I recently had bloods done and my thyroid is fine, so either I recovered or it was bunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magog View Post
    Started Clen today. First time I have run it. Took 25 mcgs at 8AM, and 25 at Noon.

    I walked for 20 minutes (fast paced high incline), and ran for another 10 minutes this morning before work. Just wanted to get a quick 30 minutes of cardio in.

    The only thing I noticed is a half hour after dosing it both times I get a little light headed. And my face feels funny (not hot, more like warm but asleep?!?)

    I plan to stay at this dosage for one more day then I will up it by 20mcg's every 2 days to see where my tolerance level is at.

    I do feel rather awake and alert.

    As far as T3 goes I used that with my last cycle.

    I think it was bunk or grossly underdosed as I noticed little to no effect, I ran it up to 100mcg's. The T3 I got tasted like Grape Koolaid or more like Dimetap cough medicine. I will be running it again for an up coming cycle of Epi and 11-OXO.

    I experienced no thyroid shutdown, I recently had bloods done and my thyroid is fine, so either I recovered or it was bunk.
    I have tried liquid T3 and used it up to 300 mcg because it was in fact bunk. From what I have read, liquid form is fine for Clen but not T3. I can attest to the difference between liquid T3 and powdered cap form T3.

    I am using T3 caps right now, and at 50 mcg I feel it working very well.

    I will be going with Clen caps next time as well in February. I used as much as 300 mcg of liquid Clen too, and it did work well at 300 mcg but still too weak in my opinion in liquid form.

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    oh ok, i've wondered about the affects of running something like clen on a ph cycle. it seems if you have one agonist bulking and one cutting the body it could confuse or cause some reaction? They may not affect each other at all.

    so to all have ran this how much weight did you loose? what time of year was it, what % was fat you say (let me know it it is a scientific guess). thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobyoung View Post
    oh ok, i've wondered about the affects of running something like clen on a ph cycle. it seems if you have one agonist bulking and one cutting the body it could confuse or cause some reaction? They may not affect each other at all.

    so to all have ran this how much weight did you loose? what time of year was it, what % was fat you say (let me know it it is a scientific guess). thanks!
    I believe using clen during a bulk could help aid in a "clean bulk." Less fat gain during bulk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobyoung View Post
    oh ok, i've wondered about the affects of running something like clen on a ph cycle. it seems if you have one agonist bulking and one cutting the body it could confuse or cause some reaction? They may not affect each other at all.

    so to all have ran this how much weight did you loose? what time of year was it, what % was fat you say (let me know it it is a scientific guess). thanks!
    Oh, and I recommend using Clen and T3 together to increase fat loss. I lost 15 lbs in 2 weeks during last August while taking 100 mcg liquid Clen and 100 mcg liquid T3 daily with both doses taken early in the morning.
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    Just finished at the gym tonight on my first Clen day.

    Wow! Did 50mcgs split the dosage and seriously wow! I had energy all day long, I didn't feel like sitting on ass at all.

    At the gym I was a maniac, it was like the first time I took a PWO all over again. I flew through what is normally a 90 minute workout in 70 minutes. I was soaked with sweat after words. When I went and tanned even through that I left a fricken Lake of sweat in the bed...I spent 20 mins cleaning the damn bed. As I am typing this I still have energy. No shakes just clean energy.

    This shit is fantastic!

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    I would not use clen on a bulk. It increases insulin resistance, which I would not be aiming for on a bulk. Anyway, if it increases your metabolic rate you will have to eat more calories to gain weight. I haven't seen anything to suggest that clen will cause favorable partitioning in caloric excess either.

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    i know i'm a novice to this area of supplementation field, but i would have to agree with thepunisher000. it seems the insulin reduction would hinder the bloods nutritional delivery to the muscles, and this could hinder recover as well.

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