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#1 NowYourDeadSon

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Posted 25 December 2014 - 12:28 AM

I just got my product in the mail, will take my first 2 scoops with a high carb breakfast tomorrow, will likely take with my breakfast every morning, as that's one of my highest carb meals, and to just keep it the same.

 

6'7, 237 was last weigh in on Sunday, reasonable body fat.. i'll post a pic, I'd guess probably 12-13%.. on no gear except 100mg test from doc.. I always take preworkouts, they vary, I have dozens of them in my cabinet, and I take intra workout hbcd and aminos.

 

Training will be 4 days a week, with an HIT , yates blood and guts type of training, very easy to log progress.

 

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Posted 25 December 2014 - 10:14 AM

Holy hell dude. 6'7, I'm jealous! Looking great, can't wait to see how you like CreMax. Have a great Christmas.


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Posted 26 December 2014 - 07:12 PM

day 1, 2 heaping scoops with breakfast.. also roughly 1h pre workout

 

did back, major improvements from last week

 

rope pulldowns for lats- last week was 150 for about 8-9, this week 160 for 10-11 (I don't have log in front of me, i do track results of each workout, just too lazy to get it now)

 

then hammer strength lat pulldowns 2 45+2 10 per side for about 10, which is 10lbs more per side than last week

 

bb rows went from 155 for 8-9 to 185 for 9-10 (yates rows, perfect form)

 

high cable row- 120 for 16-17 to 140 for 12-13

 

rack pulls- 315 for 12 to 365 for 8.

 

so pretty good strength gains from last week, obviously nothing from product yet.. will hit chest/bi tomorrow and log



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Posted 26 December 2014 - 09:15 PM

Following! Good luck champ!

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Posted 27 December 2014 - 12:19 PM

Nice doing rack pulls at the end of the workout. I'll do that from time to time and go lighter, making sure I squeeze the hell out of my back.


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Posted 27 December 2014 - 06:24 PM

chest bi today

 

week 1- decline bench 275 x7

week2- 295 x7

today 315 x4

 

this means will do 315 again next week, need to get 7 before i up the weight again.

 

inc db went up also, 95s x 8 i believe, week before was 90 x 6-7.

 

other 2 moves were fly movements, cable flies, went up in weight, same reps, and pec dec up in weight and reps.

 

keep in mind, this is very low rest between which is why after a 315 bench i could only do 95s on inc db..instead of like 120-130 like i would if fresh.

 

 

biceps

 

week 1- conc curl 40x 8

week 2 45 x 8

today 50 x 7

will up to 55 next week

 

bb curl, last week was 90 x 6, today was 100 x 8 or so.

 

 

that's it

strength going up very nicely training like this, not much to report from product yet.

 

tomorrow will be doing legs, but making a change from normal leg routine, I've been going heavy til failure on leg press, but changing that to a 4-2-4 tempo with lighter weight, still to failure, but that heavy weight on my knees and back is not optimal.. safety first.. no sense in throwing 20 plates on and popping a knee out of place.. last week i did either 18 or 20 plates for 8-9 reps.

not sure where i'll start with this new tempo stuff.. but we'll see



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Posted 27 December 2014 - 06:28 PM

as far as diet.

 

training days always the same

m1- 1/2c cream of rice, 1tbs almond butter, 1c strawberries, walden farms chocolate syrup all mixed up ala john meadows and 16oz egg whites, i drink them w/ the chocolate syrup in there..

intra carbs 75g hbcd and 20g eaa

pwo meal about 60g protein (whey) and 70-100g carbs

then a blended up shake of spinach, berries, aminos, ff greek yogurt, and 30g isolate and 5g glutamine

then my final carb/pro meal, about 70-100g carbs and 50g protein (chicken and rice or potatoes usually, or a chipotle burrito)

then just fat and pro rest of day.

whey and nuts and coconut oil

4 whole omega 3 eggs and 4 oz grass fed beef

and before bed is steak and eggs and nuts.

 

cals come out to like 4200-4400 on most days

 

 

off days

meals 1 and 2 are carb/pro, the rest fat/pro. cheating is infrequent unless i notice a major unexpected drop in bodyweight.. last week for example i lost 5 lbs even though bulking.. a pizza and wing and cheesecake night was needed to get back on track.



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Posted 27 December 2014 - 08:10 PM

That 4-2-4 tempo sounds like a killer. Good luck wlking the day after!


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Posted 28 December 2014 - 07:36 PM

don't have everything in front of me today for #s,

but I decided going full blown heavy on leg ext, 4 second descent/2 second pause.. attempted explode up on leg press, then heavy again on hacks.. then some glute/ham stuff

 

I added 20 lbs to the leg ext for about the same reps

leg press was tricky, as I've never done this tempo before, and I ended up going way too light at 4 plates per side.. I did hit failure, but it was WAY too many reps.. 15-20+ maybe, which may not sound like much at that weight, but after pre-exhausted leg ext and doing a low narrow stance on sled to isolate quads, that was fucking awful.. was screaming obscenities at 24 hour fitness and receiving some pretty bitter looks from this older fat lady on elliptical.. will up to 5 pates next week.

 

hack squat- this has always been my weakest point.. at my peak I was doing 405-455 ATG bb squats, and even then 2 plates on hack squats felt like a ton, don't know why, but it is.. so today added 20 lbs total to it for 2-3 less reps.. 2 45 + 10 per side for ~ 10 ish.. will go 45 45 25 per next week.

 

then some db sldl and seated leg curl and calves.. I keep a log on those but who cares about the weight.

 

 

 

obviously nothing to report yet

 

 

 

cheated terribly today.. pizza/wings/cake/candy/etc.. at about 3pm.. soooo aminos for the rest of the day, macros already above and beyond my daily goal.. and fasted HIIT tomorrow :/



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Posted 29 December 2014 - 12:06 PM

Solid workout man. 


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Posted 29 December 2014 - 09:51 PM

In. Hope you had a good Christmas.

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 09:26 AM

thanks, it was nice and relaxing

 

today was okay workout

db shoulders from 85x7 to 90x5

lateral raises from 40x12 to 45x 10

pulley laterals from 35 to 40 lbs, same reps I believe

shrugs I just do, not tracking weight

 

straight bar tricep pushdown.. I do VERY slow tempo on these with absolute pristine form, back arched, chest out, shoulders back.. pure tri isolation.. about a 2-2-2 tempo roughly.. sometimes slower.. from 150 x 10-12 to 160 x 10-11

skull crushers from 95 x 6 to 100 x 5

2h overhead db from 80x9 to 85x9

 

all of this is to AT LEAST positive failure, some to negative failure also.. the 2h db oh for example, spotter spots me til I can't control the weight.

 

 

overall a good workout, nothing spectacular

 

 

 

gains slowing down as I'm starting to get reasonably close to my strongest..at my absolute best, on all kinds of tren, dbol, test, etc I was db shoulders 110s x6.. few years back, haven't gone heavy on them since, and now I'm just on 100/w trt dose, so getting back up into the high 90s I expect gains to slow down a bit.. 95x5 today, maybe next week 95 x 6-7



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Posted 01 January 2015 - 01:37 PM

rope pulldowns to pre-exhaust lats-- 150 to 160, similar reps

hammer str pulldown 110 per side to 115 per side, 1-2 more reps

yates row 185 to 225, similar reps

rack pulls 365 for 8 to 405 for 5-6.

 

 

major strength gains.

feels good.


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Posted 01 January 2015 - 04:16 PM

Nice rack pulls and Happy New Year!


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Posted 01 January 2015 - 06:55 PM

looking forward to Saturday's workout

 

will be going kiefer backload approach leading up to workout.. keto all day Friday, keto Saturday til 6pm.. then brutal workout, then a hyper-satiation gorge with ungodly amounts of food and probably 3-4 scoops of my creatine for that to help nutrient uptake.

 

Hyper gorge coming up.


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Posted 02 January 2015 - 03:46 PM

Take pics of the food if you can!

 

I am starting carb backloading on Monday. I start student teaching and hate training fasted, so I am going to go train after school. I will have 2-3 meals prior to trainng, small meals with fats, protein, and veggies. The my post workout meal and pre bed meal, bring on the carbs!


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Posted 02 January 2015 - 04:24 PM

I read his PDF, friend at the gym bought it and was nice enough to forward to me

 

this is my PLAN of attack from this point forward..

Monday- keto, skipping breakfast ala CBL protocol..

Tuesday, weds, and thurs.. (I train 6am tu+th) will do carbs meal 1-2-3, fat meal 4-5-6..

f- keto, skip breakfast ala cbl

sat and sunday full blown cbl hyper gorging.. will do a few fat/pro meals before training, train at 6pm.. then gorge on everything in site..

 

given my goal of slow, lean gains, I think this will work.. however when I decide to blast or run a cycle, I will clean it up and bit and increase cals everyday and cut out those keto days.. in the name of mass.

 

this current approach is effective today.. keto Fridays :/



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Posted 03 January 2015 - 11:34 AM

I read his PDF, friend at the gym bought it and was nice enough to forward to me

 

this is my PLAN of attack from this point forward..

Monday- keto, skipping breakfast ala CBL protocol..

Tuesday, weds, and thurs.. (I train 6am tu+th) will do carbs meal 1-2-3, fat meal 4-5-6..

f- keto, skip breakfast ala cbl

sat and sunday full blown cbl hyper gorging.. will do a few fat/pro meals before training, train at 6pm.. then gorge on everything in site..

 

given my goal of slow, lean gains, I think this will work.. however when I decide to blast or run a cycle, I will clean it up and bit and increase cals everyday and cut out those keto days.. in the name of mass.

 

this current approach is effectivetoday.. keto Fridays :/

 

I don't have to book, I think you answered something I was searching yesterday.

 

On days I train, but do not have to student teach or have professional development, I am going to train in the morning. So, I train fasted and have carbs the first two or three meals after? 

 

On days I teach, I will go to the gym in the evening and will have two meals prior, both fat/protein. I will have green veggies with those meals too and then my post workout meal and meal pre bed will have carbs.


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Posted 03 January 2015 - 11:46 AM

I don't have to book, I think you answered something I was searching yesterday.

On days I train, but do not have to student teach or have professional development, I am going to train in the morning. So, I train fasted and have carbs the first two or three meals after?

On days I teach, I will go to the gym in the evening and will have two meals prior, both fat/protein. I will have green veggies with those meals too and then my post workout meal and meal pre bed will have carbs.

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CarbShock is Kiefers supp but just sub in your postWO shake sans carbs.

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Posted 03 January 2015 - 01:58 PM

I just have sludge, fruit, and some other carbs post workout. I will just omit the carbs, have the sludge, and then follow the guideline. How much coconut oil should one have? Unless green tea can be substituted for coffee.


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Posted 03 January 2015 - 02:04 PM

Keep it to 30g carbs postWO along with your protein source and you'll be fine.
I just have 14g CO and green tea is fine.
Just make sure you backload your carbs at NIGHT no matter what time you lift.

Also for AM sessions you can BL the night before to fuel that session and stay LC postWO. Lots of ways to skin the cat but I find CBL is easy to follow, adjust, and it works.

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Posted 03 January 2015 - 07:01 PM

my plan is to CBL now

as follows-

 

Monday- full blown keto diet, skip breakfast, instead will have 10-15g iso + leucine+ 2-3tbs MCT

Tuesday AM trainng- pwo have 35g carbs/50g whey immediate post workout, fat/pro rest of day til 6-7 pm.. then 1-2 reasonable carb meals.. goal would be total of 300-350g carbs for day

weds- same as Monday, except last 1-2 meals will be carb laden also, figure I will shoot for 200-300g total carbs.

th- repeat tues

fr- repeat weds

sat and sunday, PM training.. so will do keto during day, train 6pm to 7pm, then hyper-gorge on carbs, unreasonable meals.. likely entire pizzas and cheesecakes and such.. completely over the top with carbs.

 

this is going into effect immediately, will see how it all works out.. also might be throwing in some diabolix once my creatine log on this is over, as that would grossly skew results..

 

I'm curious to see how this will work, example of carb nights on weds and Friday will be 1 box cereal of cereal, or a box of pop tarts, or half dozen donuts.. so it will be a lot, but not so much that I'm immobilized.. Monday is full keto, tu and th will be similar to m+f.. but might include an extra couple cups of white rice/chicken (Tokyo joes) or whatever additional junk I'm craving

the weekends will be a fucking nightmare....... whole pizzas, ice cream, cheesecake, burgers, fries.. going all out on those days..

 

giggity.

 

thoughts on what will happen with this approach?



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Posted 03 January 2015 - 08:18 PM

You might not be able to hit it that hard and dirty without getting a little sloppy. Or you may be able to get by.
If you want good results while haveing some fun keep 3 our of 4 of your BLs cleaner and then have one crazy night or 2 but after big muscle group workouts.
I've read the book a few times and I'm going to be CBLing here in a few weeks 2-4 BLs with 200-400g carbs depending on the workload. 700-900g carbs total a week all depending on workload. For me anyways.
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Posted 03 January 2015 - 11:39 PM

after first night of hyper gorging on filth, I've concluded this isn't worth it.

will continue CBL but with more reasonable approach to it.. I'm thinking more like 200-300 per night is more reasonable.. with sources from more stuff like cereal, cream of rice (I love that stuff, plus it's not filling and it's VERY carb dense.. 1/4c=~40g carbs)..and some Chinese food with rice..things like that.

pizza and donuts and muffins and such are going to be a once in a while type of thing.. I'm very uncomfortable right now and I don't remember kiefer indicating in his book that the point is to eat until you feel like you have polio

 

I feel like I have polio

fail day 1

 

i'll get it right tomorrow



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Posted 04 January 2015 - 07:29 AM

Yeah you fell into the trap that most new to CBL get pulled into.
All the reading of smashing everything in sight is only meant to be done once in awhile.

Good call on the switch and it'll work way better.
If you wanted to hyper gorge look into his other book CNS.
You could go LC all week then smash grub after your 2 weekend PM sessions.
That's what I did this weekend because I wanted to smash the carbs and had 700g both nights.
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