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#1 Wesleyinman

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 07:57 PM

Wesley VS. DermaTrest

 

Guys I am running DermaTrest by OL UK for the next 30+ days.  Will be running 100mgs on workout days.  50mgs in am, 50mgs PWO.

On off days, 50mgs, maybe 25 in am, 25 in pm

 

Have never run this before..but I want to compare it to AAR trest which is the best trest I have ever used.

Wanna see how it compares.

Anyone with info please post up.

Not a super serious thread, more for fun..will post updates and looking for feedback from anyone ane everyone!!

 

Thank you to the PHF member for hooking me up (name not listed intentionally, you know who you are!)

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 08:11 PM

Very interested (and jealous as hell) to see you run this. 

I didn't enjoy trest deca IM.  Hope to get a chance to compare it to TD again someday.  


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 08:12 PM

I can see your feet.
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#4 Wesleyinman

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 08:50 PM

I can see your feet.

Size 9.5-10 ;)

 I will be laterhing it on those ankles!!


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 09:09 PM

Looking forward to your thoughts on this.

Some love OL, some hate them. I have some of their orals in my stash, but the only thing I have tried is their Formestane. I like the product but hate the pump! Impossible to do half a pump, and it clogs easy so sometimes 1 pump is more like 1.5, lol. Will take an Alpha Gainz dropper all day long. Carrier, smell, etc are all nice on the OL form IMO. Wish it was not banned...
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Posted 17 October 2016 - 10:49 PM

Size 9.5-10 ;)

Hilliar has awesome cankles!!

 

As cankles go, I suppose.


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Posted 18 October 2016 - 03:58 AM

I can see your feet.


He only has two toes on the right foot.....wtf?
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Posted 18 October 2016 - 03:59 AM

Wesley versus anything.......and I'm in. You know champ you can't be beaten.....undisputed totally!
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Posted 18 October 2016 - 09:52 AM

Thank you guys for the kind words.

Started today, did 50mgs in the am right after shower.  Applied nice and smooth and smells good too.

 

Will do 50mgs PWO and then post up later as well


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Posted 18 October 2016 - 04:15 PM

Are you running an ai? I would unless you know your sensitivity you will likely bloat like a mofo.



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Posted 18 October 2016 - 04:22 PM

Are you running an ai? I would unless you know your sensitivity you will likely bloat like a mofo.

Not initially but I do have them just in case.

 

I am not horrifically prone.

So far Day1, no noticeable immediate strength gains during workout.

I did use half scoop of dmaa pwo and 50mgs of dermatrest and my BP was sky high during workout.  I know with AAR I can take 60mgs pwo and I instantly and immediately feel it and am stronger.

No worries, only day 1.

Also I am going to wash out an old Alpha Stano TD container and fill it up and use that to get better measurements.  The pump for me like everyone said, makes me wonder how accurate each full pump is.

So I will correct this 2morrow.  Definitely motivated and excited to be back on Trest..its one of my favorite compounds ever.


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Posted 19 October 2016 - 08:34 AM

Day 2

Sleep was horrific last night.  I always had severe issues on Tren style compounds, not so sure on trest in the past.

Lets hope this was coincidence.

50mgs in the am, and I noticed an hour later I feel a bit irritable..felt like this yesterday as well, so Im thinking this might be something I will watch for each time I use it.

Planning to hit gym later and will update later-


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Posted 19 October 2016 - 09:12 AM

How are your feet reacting?



#14 Wesleyinman

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Posted 19 October 2016 - 02:53 PM

How are your feet reacting?

They are more muscular? LOL kidding.

Anyone know the half life or Peak time of TD trest by chance?


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Posted 19 October 2016 - 04:04 PM

Anyone else ever use a transdermal in the groin area??

Check this info out..Im gonna go off of this and apply to the arms/chest areas instead of the feet

 

"The permeation of testosterone across the scrotal skin was 5 times greater than the permeation rates at other anatomical sites.[4,7] Skin from other sites, however, such as the arm and chest, show very similar barrier properties: clonidine application was shown to result in very similar plasma concentrations.[4] Consequently, a hierarchy of permeability at different anatomical sites can be generalized, where the skin at the epigenital region is said to have the highest permeability followed by skin from the head and neck region, the skin at the trunk (chest, stomach, back), the skin at the arm, and finally the skin of the legs"

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Posted 19 October 2016 - 04:44 PM

Have tried this before but I am mucho hairy. 



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Posted 19 October 2016 - 07:10 PM

There are some that believe scrotal application may cause a large increase in DHT and result in prostate issues. I can't speak to the validity of the claims, but they have been made. I will also say that Androgel specifically says NOT to slather it on Jim and the twins. That may also be out of concern for the increased likelihood that anointing your jewels with a transdermal would result in a higher chance of transferring the gel to your coital partner during sex (just a guess).

So, it seems like a mixed bag (see what I did?). Allegedly, absorption is much higher, but there may be concerns re prostate enlargement.

As another spirited experiment - you might consider applying Preparation H to your bag. This would help determine if Preparation H would make the sack wrinkles go away. The chicks dig a smooth bag, or so I am told.


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#18 Wesleyinman

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Posted 19 October 2016 - 09:48 PM

Alot of patches go on the inner groin area.

I remember years ago working besides some endos when HRT really just started coming out, in the early 2000s.  Patches and even buccal mucosa versions seemed to work really well back then..this of course before INJ hrt was an accepted form.


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Posted 20 October 2016 - 09:00 AM

Sleep again sucked last night..not as bad as the night before.  Woke up with a puffy face which does happen to me on trest LOL.  Lets see what else happens today-


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Posted 20 October 2016 - 09:13 AM

Low dose ai and maybe some b6 will help you sleep and not sweat your ass off.


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Posted 20 October 2016 - 01:22 PM

Please provide daily foot/tow strength updates.
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Posted 20 October 2016 - 01:38 PM

Please provide daily foot/tow strength updates.

 

All 5 toes are now visible.  Vascularity improved and holding water.  Ankles reveal I am pregnant ;)

 

Just took hot shower and dosed 50mgs to biceps and chest.  It really absorbed so well on the biceps.  Impressive sollution, Im not sure how they made this stuff so thin..


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Posted 20 October 2016 - 03:27 PM

I've done the inner grown area a decent amount..  Sometimes when I finished i'd rub a bit on the ol' ballsack for a bit of a wake up call. 

Clavicle area and tops of feet are still my favorite.  Armpits would be nice but I've pondered how my plethora of stretch marks would/would not interfere.  

In the ol' days I'd just slather 3-4 ml of stuff all over and ride the wave.  


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Posted 21 October 2016 - 07:06 PM

Tried Clavicle today.

What was really weird, I took it right after I showered and I applied 50mgs to that area...About 10mins later I felt shortness of breathe, then diziness..just really really odd...almost like my blood sugar was affected.  Felt super lethargic.

I drank some orange juice and ate yogurt  and about 10mins later I felt perfectly fine.  Weird right??

As for Aromatization..someone here mentioned using an AI..were you ever right....This stuff has my face so puffy and nipples already..Im at like Day 4 in too, thats it.

So I will run some nolva @ 10mgs ED and see if that resolves, if not I will go up to 20...

Anyways, no strength increases.  I worked up to 315x15 on bench press but I did not feel the extra strength that AAR version gives me.

What I did feel was INSANE pump to the point I could not even do but a few sets of Chest..I was so pumped..it was insane.

 

About a dozen guys at the gym were asking me what I was on because they said I got huge in a week.  I have not weighed in, but I have been eating well too and still on this and the MK.  My clothes are not fitting at all..well my jeans are, since I still have my torn quad and my right leg is about 4" smaller then the other..

And I cannot train legs..I don't know if I mentioned that to everyone??

In case you guys didn't know I tore my quad completely off 4 months ago...surgery 3.5 months ago and I am in PT 3x per week.

 

So far I definitely am seeing that I am way fuller already and I cannot believe how fast testicular atrophy kicked in as well  If the benefits turn out to be as good as the sides are hitting me..I am going to get huge on this stuff.

I would imagine I am sititng 215-220lbs and with my hurt legs that I haven't trained in 4 months, if I were training them, I'd easily be at 225-230 right now.  I am 5'8 For anyone wondering.


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Posted 21 October 2016 - 08:38 PM

Toes?

You aren't coming down with toelio, right?
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