This is a discussion on mk-677, log...sorta within the Peptides and Growth Factors forums, part of the Supplements Discussion category; Originally Posted by ZOOLANDER Is she hot? Not really but I'd hit it probably. She used to be a fatty ...
Anadrol: 100mg / Phera: 30mg / Focus: 2 caps
"I remember a time when smaller guys (like I once was) would take steroids because they wanted to become big guys and people thought that it made sense." - dml11
Magog ...funny ..had to resort to that "do it from behind" option on many occasions...lol
But seriously dude ...n fellow boardees....lets be fair..acne?...headaches?...shedding?...bloating?.. .lets put the blame where it belongs
YA'LL BETTER TAKE A SERIOUS LOOK AT ALL THAT SHIT U R EATING...REALLY?
OK yeah it major bumps hunger..but it not a get outta jail free pass to just eat everything in sight,.....even pig pussy...n expect MK-677 to bail you out...OR TAKE THE BLAME
how bout a little better diet selection in the log to not sabotage the results unfairly
believe me w.o. grease salt excess carbs those symptoms will abate
tho u did discover one unavoidable side effect....YOU WILL BECOME A PLUS SIZE CHIC MAGNET
Last edited by qwestor; 05-04-2012 at 06:06 AM. Reason: EARLY SUBMIT
also Magog..people...MK677 taken w small amount of grapefruit juice...or diet snapple...becomes totally invisible taste wise...immediately !
Magog lets keep it real n responsible to b valuable n use some common sense in using n assessing this agent as lots of people will b taking guidance from what u relay
I will post my summary after u r thru
My diet is usually spot on. I micro manage the hell out of it (desk job with a lot of time), I track everything I eat, and always have it dialed it well. I usually don't have any issue controlling my appetite at all, and I rarely if ever crave shitty food. This stuff has changed that, and not even OEP+Ephedrine is enough to curb it.
Like you said the acne and bloating are most likely dietary, I am hoping so. So despite all of the shit I have been eating the scale still hasn't moved and I am bloated from my shoulders down to my ankles.
No strength change or sleep change, still a little acne, still bloated, still can't stop eating.
Positives knees don't hurt at all (which is rare), the lack of pain is akin to taking 2 500mg Vicodin's...I fell no knee pain. My shoulders don't hurt either. Often times when lifting heavy I stop a little early due to joint issues and not muscle issues...well no joint issues.
I am going to the bank in about an hour so I will ask the girl what she meant as far as my skin goes.
Also careful taking it with Grapefruit juice...it can effect its bioavailability.
Still waiting on my damn Huperzine. The site I ordered it from hasn't even shipped my package yet. Meanwhile one of the girlfriend's ordered some shit two days after me and hers arrived today.
Anyways Talked to the girl at the bank, I asked her what she meant about my skin. She said I looked "brighter, and more vibrant". I asked her to explain that in "Man-terms", and she said that I looked younger and I had a shine to my skin. That I looked well rested, and didn't have dark circles around my eyes like normal. I then threw her a compliment about her weight loss, and she smiled. So that was that...
I did notice that a pimple I popped 2 days ago has already completely healed. It had scabbed shortly after popping (it was another of those deep bastards). But today I was washing my face and the scab came off and it looked completely healed.
Anyhoo, I am sitting at my desk right now sweating. I ate what I like to refer to as "good Tacos". They are made with flour tortillas, grilled chicken, franks redhot, and little low fat cheddar. I ate 7 tacos (usually 4 is the most I can eat). I still felt like I could eat more though. I brought a banana with me to work, along with an apple, which I just ate. I also have an orange and a spinach salad with mangoes and habaneros that I made.
I am going to try to keep it clean from here on out, and try to stick to my salads that I eat during dieting when I get cravings.
To better define the sleep issues I have had:
I sleep about 3 hours at a crack...I wake up in sweats often. But I feel well rested. Even 3 hours of sleep feels better then 8 hours does normally. I feel even though I wake up more I have very vivid dreams. I think I am getting a better quality of sleep...just not more total sleep. I will probably take a 1/4 Table Spoon of 1-carboxy, and some valerian tonight to see what that does to me as far as staying asleep.
I do break out in random sweats...like right now for example, I have sweat beeding down my forehead, even though I am in a 72 degree room. This ins't constant, but it happens often enough.
Recovery and strength remain unchanged at this point. Definite, marked improvement in joint health. The hair shedding has continues as well.
Magog...u r funny man....I'm actually more interested in your Shallow Hal episodes w the piggy bank than the MK LOG
HEY Y NOT GIVE US A LOG ON BOTH !!!!
im hoping that exchange w her was a paraphrase...pretty effin funny either way...after awhile asking her in detail about her comment gets a lil weird but hey fatty's even former ones who still c the hippo looking back in the mirror will reel in anything that bites....
tell her the reason u don't have dark circles is that your booty call said ..fuck off...n u have been getting more sleep...can she help u get them back...smooooth
n good move telling..hey u lost some pork on that fat ass of yours ..i can almost picture myself fuking u n actually looking u in the face....thats sure to win her heart...but b careful once she thinks shes bagged u ...the snacking starts again n u will b the getting "the CRUSH" ....PLEASE KEEP US INFORMED ...when u finally make a "deposit" in that bank withdrawal....i sense u r weakening...i think its the MK mushing your brain
now what were we here for..oh yeah....on to the other bullshit....yeah grapefruit my even bolster the effect...so wat u were thinking of bumping to 50
i find whenever i eat shit carbs n fats....franks ...really???... thats clean n cheddar processed ???...my skin n hair reflect it
seriously i dont think MK has any effect on test or dht..look elsewhere ..like pct comeback...delayed epi effect....not getting laid..lol....enof...try some small doses of propecia n c if it clears up ...sides on that r overblown
as far as sweats one immediately thinks u r daydreaming of miss piggy n just can't admit it...or ur thyroid is acting up for some reason..i suggest taking your temp at various times...u know overactive thyroid can also cause acne n shedding...again i doubt REAL DEAL MK...would b a factor there either..its hard when lots of variables r present
vivid dreams huh?...wonder who they r about..boy u r really jones'in for her sweet ass...she should only know how hog tied she has u....u r such a wus for a compliment...lil pigeon...she is playing u BIG TIME !
was the sweat beading down your forehead when u were asking her to talk nasty to u in "man-terms"
u da bes my man..jus fess up tell her since meeting her u can't stop thinking of her... behind..u can't sleep n u r eating incessantly..(she'll love u for that)...to fill the hole ..till u can fill hers...
I HEAR BELLS..invite me to the wedding...n the all u can eat ..taco n habaneros buffet
Last edited by qwestor; 05-05-2012 at 05:31 AM.
Can we keep this log on point, please? Keep all posts intelligent and relevant. Thanks.
Still waiting on my Huperzine...pretty pissed about that, tracking shows it hasn't even shipped yet. No more orderes from those guys, glad PHF store is tocking SNS stuff now.
The appetite has finally abated a bit. Yesterday was the first day I wasn't a ravenous pig. I kept my calories down to about 2600, and I ate decently. Not great but decently, more clean then I had.
Sleep was again odd, 2 hours at a time, total of 6 hours. Felt well rested though. Still very bloated, I have uppsed my water intake even moe now, I am at 1.5-2 gallons a day. I had hoped that would help. I do piss about every 45 minutes as well.
Scale weight THIS morning was 3lbs up. Still unaware if this is bloat or from the crap I have been eating.
Strength and recovery have no change, girl at work also made a comment about my skin. She said I was "glowing"...why don't women speak English.
Only new things of note are:
Went to see The Avengers (AMAZING BTW), and while sitting in the theater I got a real bad shin pump, and my hand cramped up, like I suddenly developed carpal tunnel. Wouldn't mention it but it happened at the same time and it was sudden and real strange about an hour after taking my 25mg dose.
Mag...hup is a bump not essential taken w green tea supp couple x's a day to theoretically get a extra pulse boost...who knows for sure
cramping MAY show actual hgh spike which is confirming ...maybe go back to 12 or do 25 eod
she is speaking english...girl-terms..shes telling u she wants u..n retrying what has worked on u in the past,,,geesch ..do i have to tell u everything...since u enjoyed the avengers so much ...see it again w her...tho w that ass u may have to buy 3 tickets n go in after it starts n is dark so u wont be seen n can slip in the back row
my man Chilly...CHILL... if my posts r offensive to your PC male or irrelevant please feel free to skip them altogether,,very ez to do....don't ask the rest of the world to live inside your box
I will be using the Huperzine regardless, I have seen a fair amount of anecdotal evidence to suggest it will benefit me. I take Green Tea Extract Daily already.
As far as the bank chick goes, not gonna happen. No time for a third woman...already dating two woman who are a pain in my ass, and well I only have two ass cheeks.
hey bro...think it over...she sounds like 2 for the price of 1...lol
Still no change in strength, endurance, or recovery. Last night the one girlfriend ended up pissing me off so I was up "discussing" until 4am, before I finally told her to shake her ass home. So I got only about 4 hours sleep again. Although I did wake up feeling well rested, and good to go. I wasn't drowsy or wanting to play Snooze with my alarm.
Appetite yesterday kind of came in waves. I was okay and ate real well throughout the day, but man I crave the shittiest food. I was out earlier with the girlfriend and she order sour cream and chive fries and I had to restrain myself. I think I am getting better control of this appetite thing and it is getting less.
Weight is up a couple of pounds today, and as I woke up today I am insanely bloated. Like I look like a fat kid. For a refered I could see all of my abs 10 days ago. I can barely make them out now...it seems to be all water. My ankles and hands are swollen as well.
The breaking out seems to have slowed (hopefully stopped), still impressed at how quickly my skin healed. Speaking of skin it does feel "oily" still at this point.
My joints do not hurt at all. So it that regard, I think that so far is the best benefit of this stuff.
I will see how it goes with the Huperzine addition. If it gets better or even stays like this for joint health I think I will pick up another bottle.
hey...your craving junk..your craving CALORIES...seriously u gotta control that...blame MK for hunger..blame yourself for indulging n the sides that come w that ...excess Na bloating n greasiness
also consider my advice above about adjusting dosing
btw ...did u provoke the fight ?...now that 1 ass cheek is free...I think a certain teller's name is tattooed all over it ...time for another visit to your friendly neighborhood bank
Ate again better yesterday. Touched no carbs, for the last two days as I was planning to start DNP in the next few days. Just went high protein moderate fat. Still craved food I don't normally even like, like skittles...weird.
No change in recovery, no change in strength. Breaking out seems to have subsided, the hair thinning seems to have stopped (I don't know if it is because I added Rogaine or not).
Slept amazingly well last night! Bloating is still pretty bad, up 4lbs on the scale from the start of using this. Think I am carrying more water then that though.
Huperzine arrived will continue to run at 25mg with Huperzine. Knees have no pain, shoulder doesn't hurt either (almost always does after chest day).
Started DNP today, at 250mg, along with supports (Vit E, Potassium, Pyruvate, Glycerin, ALA).
Started the Huperzine...no changes to report thus far. Same strength, endurance and recovery.
Hair shedding seems to have stopped. knees and shoulders feel good, back was a bit tight throughout the day. and my hand/wrist cramped a few times throughout the day as well.
No change at all, from the previous day. Again have added in DNP and Huperzine.
Y?... the DNP....try the MK on its own w.o. this for now...the more u add the less u can conclude...u seem impatient generally to give things a chance to work
Actually qwestor I will be stopping the MK-677 shortly.
While my knees don't seem to hurt as much, I can't sleep while taking it and have had horrible insomnia. I haven't slept more then 2 hours since taking this stuff, that combined with NEVER feeling satiated just sucks.
My appetite came back horrible yesterday and while I ate clean I ate to the point of throwing up being so overfull, and I wanted to eat more.
I have read that the appetite goes away after 3 months of usage, but I am not going to use this long enough for that.
So this is where I stand with MK-677 in a 2 week run.
-Better/faster skin healing
-Joint discomfort is largely abated
-Never ending appetite
-No feeling of satiation despite over consumption
-Terrible, broken sleep
-SEVERE water retention
-Wrist/Hand cramps akin to Carpal Tunnel
This stuff might be for some folks...but it isn't for me. I was taking it mainly for joint improvement, but ultimately I get the same feeling from high doses of Shark Cartilage and Cissus. And those two don't give me the other effects.
I would consider using this again on an ALL OUT BULK. But on any other kind of diet, it just doesn't work. I can't overstate the appetite, or water retention, enough.
Last edited by Magog; 05-10-2012 at 11:24 AM.
wow, sounds like this stuff blows! surprised really
Also qwestor, in the future keep the shit out of logs...or better yet keep your thoughts and opinions out of my logs...you don't like how I am taking something, or logging something don't read it.
When you take Ephedrine+OEP, and then wash it down with some Rasberry Ketones and Synephrine you shouldn't want to eat anything...even at that I couldn't stop eating.
Based on the effects and sides I did get though I will make the assumption that gtgchems stuff at least.
But at $100.00 a bottle it wasn't worth it to me.
So if you are going on an all out bulk and have trouble eating a shit ton of calories, and already shave your head give it a go