The Official Stupid Question Thread

[Superdrolin']

I figured I'd post this here as you promised not to flame me. I have been lifting on and off for several years and have gotten decent gains. I am 6' 0" and 216lbs....with bf 20%. I am looking to make a significant improvement in muscle mass while reducing my BF....no shit right. I am very well informed on typical supplements but need help on the PH/DS side. I have been using 11-oxo for about 25 days and I'm not impressed. Some strength gains but nothing great....my workouts include compound/multi-joint lifts...squats, dead lifts, cleans, bench...so I'm providing the stimulus as well as rest to grow. Can you guys suggest a cycle that would make a noticeable change over 6 weeks. Brand names would help too...I want make sure I'm getting quality product.

Thanks

Havoc/Epistane to cut

[tlc1969]

Thank you! I'll check it out.

[blueboy22]

Stupid question thread. I love it.

I finally made it over here.........

[KmuL]

Stupid question thread. I love it.

I finally made it over here.........

welcome

[milkhouse]

Ok here is one. What will happen if you take a ph and be taking something like an anti depressant too? I'm curious about the fine print on the bottle about mao inhibitors and that stuff? Would it be instant death or what?

[Superdrolin']

Ok here is one. What will happen if you take a ph and be taking something like an anti depressant too? I'm curious about the fine print on the bottle about mao inhibitors and that stuff? Would it be instant death or what?

I wouldn't take any hormonal product while on an anti-depressant. Talk to your doctor.

[SIZE.MATTERS]

stupid question time,

whats the difference between h-drol and m-drol and can they be stacked with bold?

thanks in advance

[tlc1969]

Ok here is one. What will happen if you take a ph and be taking something like an anti depressant too? I'm curious about the fine print on the bottle about mao inhibitors and that stuff? Would it be instant death or what?

I have taken 11-oxo (not really hard core stuff) for 30 days and I take SSRIs and had no problems. I mean yeah the growth of a third eye was weird but really no problems beyond that.

[milkhouse]

I have taken 11-oxo (not really hard core stuff) for 30 days and I take SSRIs and had no problems. I mean yeah the growth of a third eye was weird but really no problems beyond that.

HA! LMAO! Well there should be something good about a third eye.

[KmuL]

stupid question time,

whats the difference between h-drol and m-drol and can they be stacked with bold?

thanks in advance

m-drol is a superdrol clone

h-drol is a clone of the active ingredient in Halodrol 50

They can be stacked with bold...In fact if you check the cycle log section you will see one of each of those stacks. Would not recommend stacking though until you have done each of those individually

[milkhouse]

Um where did the thread that has the cheapest prices go? I am trying to find out if anyone 1) has the 10% code from bb.com
and
2) can tell me how the price match system works for bb.com
If I could get every thing I need from one site, the less I'll have to pay for shipping.
Thank You

[KmuL]

Um where did the thread that has the cheapest prices go? I am trying to find out if anyone 1) has the 10% code from bb.com
and
2) can tell me how the price match system works for bb.com
If I could get every thing I need from one site, the less I'll have to pay for shipping.
Thank You

http://www.prohormoneforum.com/proho...ice-watch.html

1) show10percentoff

2) you have to call bb.com

[SIZE.MATTERS]

m-drol is a superdrol clone

h-drol is a clone of the active ingredient in Halodrol 50

They can be stacked with bold...In fact if you check the cycle log section you will see one of each of those stacks. Would not recommend stacking though until you have done each of those individually

thanks man,going on a bulk and want to know what you would think would be a good ph to stack with it.

oh snd great work with the forum

[ofConsequence]

Dumb question--wondering if anyone has personally experienced any negative side effects when upping the daily dose of bold from 800mg to 1000.

Thanks in advance! Awesome site Kmul...


EDIT: spelling.

[milkhouse]

So here is my next stupid question. Is there a way to tell if you are predisposed to gyno, other than trying a ph that aggravates it?

[akakomen101]

this is from a newb so its gotta be great... ....

what do you need to run a cycle... what im saying is you have your prohormone and something to balance yourself out after you have finished you ph. is there anything you take along with your ph...

i wanted to know what is a great ph to increase size dramatically ..... with mild to medium side effects

[SmoknCummins]

Hey guys, just signed up here this site is great. I am 21, 6', 186 lbs, no clue on bf. I've been lifting for about 5 years but very intensly and dedicated for about a year now and been doing it with norm supps, ie superpump, novadex xt, white flood, PW, size on, muscle juice, on whey, plasmajet, animal pak, 17-hd, and many more. I've been doing LOTS of research on ph over a month and am wanting to start my first cycle. 1) i think ph are illegal here..? (Canada)
2) im thinking of doing a halotest 25 4 week cycle, with running AI cycle support 2 weeks prior to the cycle and during. then AI post cycle after(4 weeks). my questions are... can i still use a preworkout drink such as white flood or superpump DURING the cycle as well as post? Also, for pct should/can i take novadex xt during pct? my diet is pretty clean and on track as well. Any thoughts and or suggestions and help would be MUCH appreciated. Feel free to pick apart my ideas. Thanks!

[SplashN96]

Dumb question--wondering if anyone has personally experienced any negative side effects when upping the daily dose of bold from 800mg to 1000.

Thanks in advance! Awesome site Kmul...


EDIT: spelling.

Sides will most likely increase with dose but with Bold I don't think it would be extremely noticeable, However more isn't always better so if you are thinking of upping the dose question your reasoning behind it. Lots of people go into cycles with thoughts of getting dramatic results but this isn't how it goes then they want to up the dose, it doesn't work this way, sometimes a smaller dose will give better results with less sides, gotta find the sweet spot.

If I were to guess you might feel a little more lethargic and acne may increase with a 800 to 1000 bump.

this is from a newb so its gotta be great... ....

what do you need to run a cycle... what im saying is you have your prohormone and something to balance yourself out after you have finished you ph. is there anything you take along with your ph...

i wanted to know what is a great ph to increase size dramatically ..... with mild to medium side effects

Support supplements like cycle support by Anabolic Innovations is used during cycles to keep blood pressure, liver health, etc in check during cycle.

As for your second question your best bet would probably be PheraPlex or a clone, should put on some good size, also Superdrol but I think PP would give you more size. Both PP and SD can have some nasty sides depending on the person and require a proper PCT that may not be OTC. Havoc or Epistane could also give some good size on a bulk and you could use Reversitol and/or Post Cycle Support for PCT. Hope this helps.

[SplashN96]

Hey guys, just signed up here this site is great. I am 21, 6', 186 lbs, no clue on bf. I've been lifting for about 5 years but very intensly and dedicated for about a year now and been doing it with norm supps, ie superpump, novadex xt, white flood, PW, size on, muscle juice, on whey, plasmajet, animal pak, 17-hd, and many more. I've been doing LOTS of research on ph over a month and am wanting to start my first cycle. 1) i think ph are illegal here..? (Canada)
2) im thinking of doing a halotest 25 4 week cycle, with running AI cycle support 2 weeks prior to the cycle and during. then AI post cycle after(4 weeks). my questions are... can i still use a preworkout drink such as white flood or superpump DURING the cycle as well as post? Also, for pct should/can i take novadex xt during pct? my diet is pretty clean and on track as well. Any thoughts and or suggestions and help would be MUCH appreciated. Feel free to pick apart my ideas. Thanks!

Usually pre-workout products are dropped during cycle because they aren't necessary, the PH itself with give you great focus/pumps. Taking something like white flood on cycle could give you some painful pumps and could also raise your BP to unsafe levels. Just cycle off of them and when you start them back up during PCT it will be a nice addition to help keep gains. You could use Novedex XT during PCT along with PCS basically just adding another AI, I'm not positive how you would want to dose it though, could figure it out for ya.

[SmoknCummins]

Usually pre-workout products are dropped during cycle because they aren't necessary, the PH itself with give you great focus/pumps. Taking something like white flood on cycle could give you some painful pumps and could also raise your BP to unsafe levels. Just cycle off of them and when you start them back up during PCT it will be a nice addition to help keep gains. You could use Novedex XT during PCT along with PCS basically just adding another AI, I'm not positive how you would want to dose it though, could figure it out for ya.

thx for the quick reply splash, so to be clear u r saying novadex or similar product would not be necessary during a pct? can u plz give me some suggestions/ thoughts on my whole approach i gave to the cycle as to what im missing or anything else helpful?

[haterade]

what does it mean when people mention "back pumps" or some other kind of pump as a side effect of a PH?

[SplashN96]

what does it mean when people mention "back pumps" or some other kind of pump as a side effect of a PH?

Pumps just like you would get in your arms or chest, but you get them in your lower back muscles, they get pumped so much that they become stiff and very painful. Can happen in your shins also.

[saintedd]

I have ran tren and pheraplex in the past. Now I am gonna try M-drol by itself(i hear to run most things by themselves first before stacking) and was wondering if 10-20 mg will really give me results. I ran tren and p-plex at 40mg for four weeks each(about four months apart). After reading a bunch of sites i noticed the dose of M-drol to be lower. So I am 6' 215 with 13-16%bf depending on my weekend . Will my past use affect this dose or should i bump it up?

[SplashN96]

thx for the quick reply splash, so to be clear u r saying novadex or similar product would not be necessary during a pct? can u plz give me some suggestions/ thoughts on my whole approach i gave to the cycle as to what im missing or anything else helpful?

Correct, I'm guessing you're referring to Novedex by Gaspari? For an H-drol cycle it is not required, the PCS should be enough. If you want a more thorough pct add Reversitol by I-Force.

[haterade]

Hey, does anyone have a suggestion for which of these would be best for my first cycle: (will probably run 6-8 months from now)

bold 200
RPN havoc
3 AD
h drol

My goal is to bulk to 240 to compete in PL, so im most interested in which ones will give me size and strength gains. (ive heard h drol is typically used for a cutting cycle).

Also, would nolvadex be overkill for a cycle of any of these? or would something like 6 oxo or reversitol be better?

edit: and what support supps would be recommended? (hawthorn berry, milk thistle, Cycle Support by Anabolic Innovations or Perfect Cycle by Anabolic Extreme?)

sorry for so many questions, this site is a great source of information though!