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This is a discussion on mdrol or epistane within the Prohormone Forum forums, part of the Supplements Discussion category; which is better or less harsh on hairline?...

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    which is better or less harsh on hairline?

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    The shed factor of most PH/DS seems to be largely user dependent. I battle MPB, but didn’t experience any additional hair loss with Phera, but other guys have lost hair like a chow-chow in Death Valley.

    For whatever it may be worth, I didn’t notice any additional hair loss with Epi. I have never done M-drol.
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    Epi should be less harsh, generally speaking.

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    From user experience epi is safer than mdrol... U will be able to run a longer cycle with good gains from epi but obviously not comparable to gains from mdrol

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    i plan on either running mdrol for 3 weeks, or epi for 4 to 5 weeks.

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    I also researched this extensively, since I battle MPB, from my reading I wouldn't touch epi. Only Because of the negative feedback regarding hair loss. Would love to run it though....my two cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglasb View Post
    Speaking from personal experience. While the Vida ratios are interesting, they probably don't mean a whole lot in real-world usage scenarios. I suppose that having some sort of indicator of anabolism:androgenism is more helpful than nothing at all, but in my experience, it really doesn't matter a whole lot how much a particular compound enlarged a castrated rat's prostate or anus. A lot of these compound look like they'd be pretty impressive according to the data published in Vida, and when people actually use them, they are sorely disappointed. Personally, I place a little more faith in "word of mouth" or anecdotal evidence from humans that have actually tried the compounds we talk about in here (as long as it isn't limited to a few isolated cases). I can't tell you how the ratios of H-Drol and Epi compare, but I can tell you that I've run Epi three times solo and once stacked with Tren, and I've run Halo once, and Halo has made more of my hair fall out in one week than Epi has in all four cycles combined. So, at least in my experience, the effect that Epi will have on the hairline is minimal.
    That's really interesting to read because the only thing that was keeping me from doing Epistane next was the potential for hair loss. I've done Halodrol in the past and am doing another Halodrol cycle right now. I haven't really noticed any hair loss on Halodrol but I've also been taking Propecia.

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    Can you use hair products eg rogaine for receding hairline?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckrappraisal View Post
    I also researched this extensively, since I battle MPB, from my reading I wouldn't touch epi. Only Because of the negative feedback regarding hair loss. Would love to run it though....my two cents.

    what do you know about mdrol and hair loss?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja87 View Post
    Can you use hair products eg rogaine for receding hairline?
    Rogaine is supposed to only work on the back and top of your head, not the hairline (most bottles of rogaine even say this).

    I always go ahead and apply it to both places just in case.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by toolness1 View Post
    Rogaine is supposed to only work on the back and top of your head, not the hairline (most bottles of rogaine even say this).

    I always go ahead and apply it to both places just in case.....
    Cheers man. Sorry if this sounds silly but how would one apply to try and save the current hairline? eg put it right at the top of your forehead? srs just dont know how it would work until its to late.
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    you're better off asking about personal experiences than following A:A ratios, like said before, they don't usually mean squat in real world applications. this stuff is much more user dependent than chemical lab tests, not bashing just stating my personal opinion from real world applications.

    my hair shred a great deal more with superdrol than epi. it was a noticable difference so much that my g/f even said something about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Steuss View Post
    The shed factor of most PH/DS seems to be largely user dependent. I battle MPB, but didn’t experience any additional hair loss with Phera, but other guys have lost hair like a chow-chow in Death Valley.

    For whatever it may be worth, I didn’t notice any additional hair loss with Epi. I have never done M-drol.
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    effects come at a certain cost. if your prone to mpb, just deal with it, cuz chances are youll get it eventually anyways.

    also finasteride can give you gyno, LOL. all this shit comes with a certain caveat emptor. no drug is perfect.
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    besides the whole "nolva is liver toxic" stuff is bullshit

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    I disagree. Nolva does stress the liver, making it liver toxic.

    But at the doses and lengths we self-med with (10-20mg, 4-8weeks) I would only give it a 1 on a scale of 1 to Jaundace
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