The "My First H-drol Cycle" FAQ

[benhammmer]

Great thread!

[Dlpg119]

Great info bro

[Blaizer]

Cheers mate. interested to try h-drol now.

[Ghost26]

is taurine neccesary?

[InterFC]

henryv suspects something mischievous

[InterFC]

hahahaha true. just looked at his forum post history. its really obvious

[Tsunami2k]

Really appreciate this thread. I am unfortunately one of the newbies, but I am not going to post a new topic like the rest of them.I'm going to be doing the same dosage for my h-drol cycle that you posted, seems to be the standard. Going to be pre-loading with hawthorn. I ordered some clomid for the PCT, and I am finding very mixed answers regarding what is a standard dosage. I understand that h-drol is a mild PH, so is 50/50/50/50 sufficient? Some say to up the dose the first 3 days to maybe 75, and then continuing with 50.Also, I ordered some Inhibit-E, would it be wise to take that along with the clomid?Any answers would be much appreciated guys.

[Dlamont85]

Hello

Tamoxifen Citrate 20mg x 60ml
Might be a stupid question,is that enough for a 20/20/10/10 PCT?

[Dlamont85]

Ok I place an order for Tamoxifen Citrate 20mg x 60ml, will that have to be stored in the freezer or refrigerator being that they only do priority shipping?

[Dlamont85]

Considering Cycle

H-drol: 50/75/75/75/75/75

Tamox: 20/20/10/10 , Activate Xtreme

AI Life Support the entire cycle

two week preload hawthorn berry, also take the norms multi and bcaa's

See any holes or does that look pretty solid?

[Ash16]

Considering Cycle

H-drol: 50/75/75/75/75/75

Tamox: 20/20/10/10 , Activate Xtreme

AI Life Support the entire cycle

two week preload hawthorn berry, also take the norms multi and bcaa's

See any holes or does that look pretty solid?

i'd suggest adding creatine and DAA to PCT and Erase starting week 3 of PCT at high dose and ramp down over 4 weeks. Also drink shit loads of water and get some taurine f or cycle. What others think?

Also does this look like a better cycle?
h-drol 50/50/75/75/75/75 with pulsed superdrol of 15mg for 3 days in each of the beginning 2 weeks pre workout? good/bad?

[Emufarch]

I did not want to start another hdrol thread so I will post my outline here to make sure its all good. Will be doing the cycle in the summer. This is my first cycle, hdrol into a three week high does 11 oxo bridge (which I am still debating).

hdrol: 50/75/75/75/75/75
11 oxo bulk powder:0/0/0/0/0/0/1000/1000/1000

PCT: nolva 20/20/10/10
Endoamp max starting week 3 of PCT for cortisol.

Supports:
Two weeks preloading before cycle. Cycle assist 4 hours after each does - plan on 8am hdrol, 12pm CA, 4pm hdrol, 8pm CA)
Taurine on hand

My main question this, is my 11 oxo bridge a good idea, and if so is the SERM I outlined dosed enough because I will have been taking orals for 9 weeks as opposed to the more standard 6. Also is my dosing protocol right?

[Clobbersaurus]

So I'm starting my first cycle next week, done hours and hours of research and confident I got most of the info I need. I just have a detail question:
I've read suggestions to not use creatine and pre wo NO supps while on cycle, as it is better to reap the benefits of the energy while on PCT. However, I also read that most people don't really feel the H-Drol kick in for the first week-ish. Is it "ok" to keep using these and ramp them down over the first week or two so as to not negatively impact my volume/intensity early cycle? Let me add that I've been on ECA stack for a while now and have been ramping that down since I started loading Hawthorn Berry so I will be losing that source of energy also.

[surfsanclem]

People go back and forth on the creatine thing, it seems to be a personal decision. IMO I would not take any of the pre workout supps, your not gonna feel the energy immediately but you will feel the BP increase in the first week. I think you are just gonna have to tough it out for the first week or so until your body gets acclimated to the change in caffeine.

[Clobbersaurus]

Tks for the rapid reply and the helpful information. Exactly what I wanted to know.

[Dlamont85]

When doing the first week of h-drol at 50mg, would you just take the 50mg in the am or do a 25/25 am/pm? and then a 50mg am / 25mg pm for the rest of the cycle.

[Clobbersaurus]

I think you are just gonna have to tough it out for the first week or so until your body gets acclimated to the change in caffeine.

Dunno if it was because I started the cycle @ 75mg instead of 50mg today or just an amazing placebo effect, but dayum...was able to do entire scheduled workout without problems. In fact, I felt myself getting stronger as the sets went on. Even on the ECA and w/ preWO supps I would start yawning towards the end; today, nada and felt like I could have done another set or two.
Thanks for the nudge, would have 3 scooped Jack3d otherwise probably.

[blitz1080]

First of all very thankful for this thread, I plan on doing an h-drol cycle as my first cycle. Where do you get cycle assist? Who makes this?

Secondly, I have nolva and I hear doses are 20/20/10/10. So 4 weeks of PCT? Right after I finish my last day of h-drol, I would go into nolva the next day right? Can I add an AI and test booster with the start of nolva and bring nolva to 10/10/10/10 instead? Or would I continue the AI/test booster after week 4 of completing nolva?

Also what do you guys think of UDCA for liver protection, instead of liv52. I really am cautious and do not want to get any liver affects due to the methyl. Thanks for the help!

[Newb5]

those are some really basic questions that should have been answered already. your main focus for pct is a serm so you dont lower it. imo liv52 and/or nac is good enough for h-drol. i would only spend the money on udca/tudca maybe if it was a pretty harsh cycle. your liver values should be normal a few weeks after pct anyways.

[blitz1080]

I already take liv52 every day, so don't bother with UDCA then? Trying to be on the safe side. Appreciate it.

So if I have a serm, do not bother with a testbooster or AI? This is the one I'm confused about as I could not find the answer. Can I take a testbooster and AI along with my SERM and keep the serm dosages to 10/10/10/10? I'm just not sure if it would be safe to mix while on PCT. Thanks for the help

[surfsanclem]

Dunno if it was because I started the cycle @ 75mg instead of 50mg today or just an amazing placebo effect, but dayum...was able to do entire scheduled workout without problems. In fact, I felt myself getting stronger as the sets went on. Even on the ECA and w/ preWO supps I would start yawning towards the end; today, nada and felt like I could have done another set or two.
Thanks for the nudge, would have 3 scooped Jack3d otherwise probably.

Happy I could help.

[psilos23]

what you suggest for pct for a cycle with hdrol/dermacrine?

[psilos23]

i will use these.omega 3,6,9, multivitamin,tayrine,cyccle support,nolvadex,proviron,vit C,what other can be useful????

[Newb5]

what you suggest for pct for a cycle with hdrol/dermacrine?

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same pct as any other. serm.

i will use these.omega 3,6,9, multivitamin,tayrine,cyccle support,nolvadex,proviron,vit C,what other can be useful????

sounds fine xcept just use fish oil, OT for multi, no need for proviron.

[brash]

if you had 3 bottles, how would you recommend dosing? Done several cycles but never H-drol.

for example.

75/75/100/125/125/125

or branch out into a short 7th week depending on how I felt?

50/75/100/100/100/100/125