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Back pumps,,HDROL VS' 11OXO

This is a discussion on Back pumps,,HDROL VS' 11OXO within the Prohormone Forum forums, part of the Supplements Discussion category; Came in hard at the end of week 4 of h-drol.I am up to 20g's of taurine now and I ...

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    Back pumps,,HDROL VS' 11OXO


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    Came in hard at the end of week 4 of h-drol.I am up to 20g's of taurine now and I still have bad back pumps.So bad that I dont wanna eat but I force myself,and I just wanna lay around to avoid the pain.

    Does 11OXO have a rep for bad back pumps?I am going to bridge 11oxo @900 for 3 weeks before my PCT.I have read that people feel better when they switch over to the oxo,but nothing about BP's.I understand that each different compound reacts differently in one person to the next.What is the general concensus concerning this matter?

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    I ran 11oxo/bold cycle a bit back and got really bad BP/back pumps also dropped the bold and ran just the 11oxo for 3 more weeks and it did drop my bp back down a lot so im not sure for you but for me no prob with bp and 11oxo at 750mg
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    Take some creatine and potassium mafawka. Trust me

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    Oh,I wish I could eat bananas,but they fuck my stomach up.

    I was planning on saving the creatine till PCT,but I'll give it a try,How much Potassium should I start with?

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    Outta curiosity would dosing the drol at 50/25 daily,instead of 25/25/25 like I have been doing,be better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by docveete View Post
    Came in hard at the end of week 4 of h-drol.I am up to 20g's of taurine now and I still have bad back pumps.So bad that I dont wanna eat but I force myself,and I just wanna lay around to avoid the pain.

    Does 11OXO have a rep for bad back pumps?I am going to bridge 11oxo @900 for 3 weeks before my PCT.I have read that people feel better when they switch over to the oxo,but nothing about BP's.I understand that each different compound reacts differently in one person to the next.What is the general concensus concerning this matter?
    Never had back pumps on 11oxo, just felt really good, and I am super prone to back pumps as well.
    If your back pumps are getting just plane stupid, lower carb intake by 20-30% this should have a noticable effect on lower back pumps.
    I went from M1T for 2 weeks, into EPI for 4 weeks, then onto 11oxo for 3 weeks, i went from feelin like a pan of boiled shite with so much water retention that wiping my ass was hard work, to by at the end of cycle feeling like gene kelly singing in the rain LoL! I felt like 11oxo was doing good things for me as well as put me in a good mood!

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    Thanks for all the advice guys,

    I tried a little expirement on myself when I woke up.I dosed the h-drol at 50 and I took 15gs of taurine when i woke up,to see if there was any other shit going on.Back pumps went away completely,but noticed a tightness,sharp pain in one spot on my lower back,on the right side.Either a pinched nerve or cramped muscle/s.I called off work and popped 2 vicoden and fell asleep for a couple hrs.When I woke up,pain was just about gone,and I was actually hungry for the 1st time in 4 days.The pain has been for the last couple hrs,pretty mellow a 5 on a scale from 1-10.I musta been so stressed about the pain that I cramped up,or locked up.The vicoden and extra sleep seemed to loosen me up.KNOCK ON WOOD

    Now I dont like taking pain pills,or asprin because of the fear that the body wont know that the muscles need to be repaired(broscience or not).But I had too.

    Hopefully,tomorrow I will be able to lift again.Only have 11 days left on H-drol.I didnt/dont want to cut this cycle short.

    I have only missed 1 day of hitting the weights,leg day.But havent ate or drank shit today.I may just take another day off to make sure everything is better.

    Again thanks for the help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by docveete View Post
    Thanks for all the advice guys,

    I tried a little expirement on myself when I woke up.I dosed the h-drol at 50 and I took 15gs of taurine when i woke up,to see if there was any other shit going on.Back pumps went away completely,but noticed a tightness,sharp pain in one spot on my lower back,on the right side.Either a pinched nerve or cramped muscle/s.I called off work and popped 2 vicoden and fell asleep for a couple hrs.When I woke up,pain was just about gone,and I was actually hungry for the 1st time in 4 days.The pain has been for the last couple hrs,pretty mellow a 5 on a scale from 1-10.I musta been so stressed about the pain that I cramped up,or locked up.The vicoden and extra sleep seemed to loosen me up.KNOCK ON WOOD

    Now I dont like taking pain pills,or asprin because of the fear that the body wont know that the muscles need to be repaired(broscience or not).But I had too.

    Hopefully,tomorrow I will be able to lift again.Only have 11 days left on H-drol.I didnt/dont want to cut this cycle short.

    I have only missed 1 day of hitting the weights,leg day.But havent ate or drank shit today.I may just take another day off to make sure everything is better.

    Again thanks for the help.
    Do not start taking days off whilst on cycle, as your defeating the object are being on.
    Like I said though, lower carbs intake WILL decrease painfull lower back pumps, taurine etc has never helped me, pain killers have a tiny bit, cease working after 2-3 days.

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    Believe me,I didnt wanna take the day off,I'm more upset about that,than having back issues.

    Gonna drop some carbs tonite,pain killers and asprin are outta the equation.I hate taking them.This was the first time I took anything for pain,in the last 5yrs.

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