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This is a discussion on Best Cycle for Lean Mass + Fat Loss within the Prohormone Forum forums, part of the Supplements Discussion category; I'm already quite large and my strength is kind of insane. I am looking for the best way to lean ...

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    I'm already quite large and my strength is kind of insane. I am looking for the best way to lean out though. I'm 5'10 235 and 28 years old. I've been interested in a cycle for a long time now, but not really for overall size or strength gains.

    My problem is I have been bulking for so long I try to cut and it feels like I'm dying. So I'm trying to find something that will help me just to lean out a bit, I'm about 15% BF, and I would be interested in going to about 10% or less.

    If money were not really a concern, what would be the best cycle to run for this. I'm also concerned with possible side effects, as I believe that I am genetically susceptible to gyno. My right nipple is already more circular and puffy than the left, and has a small hardened mass underneath. So I would also need the best PCT possible most likely.

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    If you've got the funds, you could stack Androhard and 11 Sterone for about 8 weeks.

    It would be pricey but you wouldn't be disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dml11 View Post
    If you've got the funds, you could stack Androhard and 11 Sterone for about 8 weeks.

    It would be pricey but you wouldn't be disappointed.
    I had looked in to some of the Andro Series, what about Androhard would make it better than the Androlean for my purposes? I'm going to look at some logs I've seen of their products, and see how it has been treating them.

    That 11 Sterone looks pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixblood View Post
    I had looked in to some of the Andro Series, what about Androhard would make it better than the Androlean for my purposes? I'm going to look at some logs I've seen of their products, and see how it has been treating them.

    That 11 Sterone looks pretty good.
    I have used Androhard and I was very impressed.

    I have not yet used Androlean so I don't feel comfortable recommending it (although it is probably an excellent product).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dml11 View Post
    I have used Androhard and I was very impressed.

    I have not yet used Androlean so I don't feel comfortable recommending it (although it is probably an excellent product).
    Makes sense I hate recommending something I have never used before. I actually don't think it's going to be that expensive either, except for I'm guessing having to buy 2 bottles of each for an 8 week cycle.

    I'll read more up on them both, but so far they look pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixblood View Post
    Makes sense I hate recommending something I have never used before. I actually don't think it's going to be that expensive either, except for I'm guessing having to buy 2 bottles of each for an 8 week cycle.

    I'll read more up on them both, but so far they look pretty good.
    One bottle of Androhard (or Androlean) lasts 4 weeks at recommended dosages.

    11 Sterone should be dosed literally as high as your budget allows. 1000mg is considered to be ideal by many of us who have used 11 Sterone (yes, it does get expensive).

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    I think a gram of 11oxo + androhard v2 + furuza at 300-500mg or a 1-andro product would be perfect. 6-8 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dml11 View Post
    One bottle of Androhard (or Androlean) lasts 4 weeks at recommended dosages.

    11 Sterone should be dosed literally as high as your budget allows. 1000mg is considered to be ideal by many of us who have used 11 Sterone (yes, it does get expensive).
    Ok yeah I saw 300mg recommended, so I guess that would get pretty pricey. It's only going to be one cycle though, not like I would run it over and over again. I just got so used to eating close to 6k calories per day, and dropping them makes me so lethargic. Going to need some help lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by DevastatingDave View Post
    I think a gram of 11oxo + androhard v2 + furuza at 300-500mg or a 1-andro product would be perfect. 6-8 weeks.
    Furuza looks good as well. Now we're talking some money though lol 300 - 500mg when the bottles I see of it are 50mg per cap.

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    11 Sterone and Furuza-A are extremely expensive to run at proper doses.

    When I run either of them, I literally need a bottle every 5-6 days.

    If you don't mind running a methylated compound, something like Epistane or D-Plex would be far more economical (and quite possibly more effective).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dml11 View Post
    11 Sterone and Furuza-A are extremely expensive to run at proper doses.

    When I run either of them, I literally need a bottle every 5-6 days.

    If you don't mind running a methylated compound, something like Epistane or D-Plex would be far more economical (and quite possibly more effective).
    Well money isn't really a concern, but if something else would be more effective I would prefer to go that route. My only fear as far as side effects are concerned (I assume that's why you mentioned methylated compounds) is the gyno. I'm just afraid I already have a tendency towards bitch tits. It's the largest bastion for fat storage on my body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixblood View Post
    Well money isn't really a concern, but if something else would be more effective I would prefer to go that route. My only fear as far as side effects are concerned (I assume that's why you mentioned methylated compounds) is the gyno. I'm just afraid I already have a tendency towards bitch tits. It's the largest bastion for fat storage on my body.
    With a good, solid PCT in place, gynecomastia is highly unlikely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dml11 View Post
    With a good, solid PCT in place, gynecomastia is highly unlikely.
    So what would you consider more effective the 11 Sterone + Furuza or the Epistane or D-Plex for my purposes? I'm going to go ahead and get some AndroHard, just trying to determine what to stack with it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixblood View Post
    So what would you consider more effective the 11 Sterone + Furuza or the Epistane or D-Plex for my purposes? I'm going to go ahead and get some AndroHard, just trying to determine what to stack with it now.
    I'm torn:

    I like either Epistane stacked with Androhard or 11 Sterone stacked with Androhard.

    The Epi will give you a little extra strength and lean, dry, quality muscle gains.

    The 11 Sterone will give you a modest amount of muscle and strength gains but it will actually strip some fat off of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dml11 View Post
    I'm torn:

    I like either Epistane stacked with Androhard or 11 Sterone stacked with Androhard.

    The Epi will give you a little extra strength and lean, dry, quality muscle gains.

    The 11 Sterone will give you a modest amount of muscle and strength gains but it will actually strip some fat off of you.
    Thanks for sticking with me here I appreciate the dedication. Sounds like the 11 sterone would be more effective for me personally. I'm pretty well muscled as is, so if the 11 Sterone will burn off the fat I think that's where it is at. The Furuza won't do much then if added with the 11 Sterone? Just trying to get it right here, I'm too fat right now it makes my muscle mass look sloppy. I will of course go in to caloric deficit, but I'd like to stay there as little as possible lol. So I'm hoping to find something nice that will help that along.

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    If you want to save some cash use the bulk powder of 11oxo. If you are SMART you can look up that POWDER online (hint hint). It is FAR more economical.
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    seems like u don't need epistane (too strong for your goals) & are better off without the furuza ( too weak & unjustifiably expensive)...

    if i were you, i'd go get some AndroHard & AndroLean since there's BOGO offer right now.

    That's a good deal & u would get you a solid cycle for 8 weeks
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevastatingDave View Post
    If you want to save some cash use the bulk powder of 11oxo. If you are SMART you can look up that POWDER online (hint hint). It is FAR more economical.
    Thanks lol.

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    seems like u don't need epistane (too strong for your goals) & are better off without the furuza ( too weak & unjustifiably expensive)...

    if i were you, i'd go get some AndroHard & AndroLean since there's BOGO offer right now.

    That's a good deal & u would get you a solid cycle for 8 weeks
    Alright I'll look in to it, I've been looking at some of the logs for that stack also.

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    I would think epi would be a good choice? Mayr with 11oxo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxer29 View Post
    I would think epi would be a good choice? Mayr with 11oxo?
    I was under the impression epistane would be more inclined towards leaner gains, rather than emphasizing fat loss. While I am not saying I don't want any muscle gains, my primary focus for this is to lose some fat. I'm already quite bulky, I'd just like to get rid of some flab, before I start another year long bulk. So really looking for things to speed up my cut right now, caloric deficits annoy me, so I want to be in one for the shortest amount of time possible.

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    Bought some Androhard (2 bottles) and Androlean (6 bottles). Have some Epistane (2 bottles) and Superdrol (2 bottles) on the way as well, I'm looking to run the Androhard + 11oxo, but as was mentioned it's not very cost effective.

    So this will be my first cycle ever, but I'm going to stock up for a couple more in the future. If I can find a better place to get that 11oxo even at the place recommended it's still going to be a lot just for losing some fat.

    I might have to just man up and run a lengthy caloric deficit. Not something I am a fan of, I've gotten highly adjusted to my huge caloric surplus. This deficit has me lethargic as hell.

    Is 11oxo something that is much more efficient at higher doses? 1000mg is going to have me running through that stuff, and while $$ isn't a big deal I would feel like I'm just pissing it away at that point.

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    Also curious if one SERM is better than another? Or are they all pretty much equivalent in efficacy? Clomi, Torem, Tamox are available to me as of right now. Any of those better than the rest?

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    I have used Clomid and I have used Nolvadex.

    They are equally effective.

    I prefer Clomid because Nolvadex demolishes my libido (temporarily).

    Haven't tried Torem yet but people seem to like it.

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    Is 11oxo something that is much more efficient at higher doses?
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixblood View Post

    This deficit has me lethargic as hell.
    Lethargy should be nonexistent on Androhard (or Stano-Drol).

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