Over 40 prohormone use and discussion

[Mrvenom808]

I highly doubt you have anything to worry about, yo. And that's a very high compliment! I live in "Da Hood" here in Philly and the young boys know I just DARE one of them to fuck with me. I don't say anything to them; it's the way I look at them and in my walk. Like, "Get the FUCK out of my way." I'm sorry, one did try me one day when I first moved around here and had on one of my Eagles jerseys. He said some ol' slick shit until I got in his face (right in front of his boys) and dared him to take it off me...while I asked him how much he liked the taste of hospital food and the possibility of DRINKING IT THROUGH A STRAW...

I like the way kids talk shit when there with a group, by themselfs they are nothing but mamas boy. Just my observations.

[jayisk]

Sure...be careful of your joints on the Epi and run the H-drol at 100-125.

You avatar reminds me of this guy--maybe a cousin

[oldarmyguy]

Gentlemen,

I ran across this thread and I'm thinking this is the place to ask for guidance. I'm Active Duty Army, came back in after a 15 year break in service. Love the job, the best people I've ever worked with wear this uniform and I'm in it for the long haul. I'm 47, no injuries, issues, or physical profiles. I'm 5' 11", a lean hard-gainer at 165 lbs, and cholesterol is like a guy in his late 20's and I do PT with the twenty-somethings, not the guys that look like they've been product testers at a frickin' Twinkie factory for the past 20 years.

I've been researching prohormones, serms, etc. for a while now but my issue is knowing whether or not all the sources I've found are reliable. What caught my eye with this thread is that it was started by senior members my age that began the thread with only discussion and not pushing some frickin' alien biotech super-soldier serum. As a result, I feel that you guys are a credible source of good information. Given the vast amount of misinformation out there, about all I've learned is that ignorance is dangerous when it comes to these type of supplements.

I've started a work-out program, (I'm on an Army post so I have all the gym equipment I could ever need at my disposal for free), and now I want to come up with a supplement plan to help me gain size and strength. Prohormones such as Ultradrol have caught my eye as well as serms. Unfortunately, I don't know enough to know what questions to ask or what I'm allowed to ask on this forum. So, if any of you fellas have the time or patience to steer me in the right direction, I would sincerely appreciate your help.

Thanks!

[kbordner]

You avatar reminds me of this guy--maybe a cousin

Thanks a much younger cousin!

[kbordner]

I highly doubt you have anything to worry about, yo. And that's a very high compliment! I live in "Da Hood" here in Philly and the young boys know I just DARE one of them to fuck with me. I don't say anything to them; it's the way I look at them and in my walk. Like, "Get the FUCK out of my way." I'm sorry, one did try me one day when I first moved around here and had on one of my Eagles jerseys. He said some ol' slick shit until I got in his face (right in front of his boys) and dared him to take it off me...while I asked him how much he liked the taste of hospital food and the possibility of DRINKING IT THROUGH A STRAW...

You Sir are fucking badass. Philly has really gone done the tubes. I used to really like the city 25 years ago. But none of the old neighborhoods are even safe anymore.

[SumDumGuy]

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[jayisk]

Gentlemen,

I ran across this thread and I'm thinking this is the place to ask for guidance. I'm Active Duty Army, came back in after a 15 year break in service. Love the job, the best people I've ever worked with wear this uniform and I'm in it for the long haul. I'm 47, no injuries, issues, or physical profiles. I'm 5' 11", a lean hard-gainer at 165 lbs, and cholesterol is like a guy in his late 20's and I do PT with the twenty-somethings, not the guys that look like they've been product testers at a frickin' Twinkie factory for the past 20 years.

I've been researching prohormones, serms, etc. for a while now but my issue is knowing whether or not all the sources I've found are reliable. What caught my eye with this thread is that it was started by senior members my age that began the thread with only discussion and not pushing some frickin' alien biotech super-soldier serum. As a result, I feel that you guys are a credible source of good information. Given the vast amount of misinformation out there, about all I've learned is that ignorance is dangerous when it comes to these type of supplements.

I've started a work-out program, (I'm on an Army post so I have all the gym equipment I could ever need at my disposal for free), and now I want to come up with a supplement plan to help me gain size and strength. Prohormones such as Ultradrol have caught my eye as well as serms. Unfortunately, I don't know enough to know what questions to ask or what I'm allowed to ask on this forum. So, if any of you fellas have the time or patience to steer me in the right direction, I would sincerely appreciate your help.

Thanks!

Most people usually suggest h-drol for a 1st ph. You could give trenazone a try.

[kbordner]

Gentlemen,

I ran across this thread and I'm thinking this is the place to ask for guidance. I'm Active Duty Army, came back in after a 15 year break in service. Love the job, the best people I've ever worked with wear this uniform and I'm in it for the long haul. I'm 47, no injuries, issues, or physical profiles. I'm 5' 11", a lean hard-gainer at 165 lbs, and cholesterol is like a guy in his late 20's and I do PT with the twenty-somethings, not the guys that look like they've been product testers at a frickin' Twinkie factory for the past 20 years.

I've been researching prohormones, serms, etc. for a while now but my issue is knowing whether or not all the sources I've found are reliable. What caught my eye with this thread is that it was started by senior members my age that began the thread with only discussion and not pushing some frickin' alien biotech super-soldier serum. As a result, I feel that you guys are a credible source of good information. Given the vast amount of misinformation out there, about all I've learned is that ignorance is dangerous when it comes to these type of supplements.

I've started a work-out program, (I'm on an Army post so I have all the gym equipment I could ever need at my disposal for free), and now I want to come up with a supplement plan to help me gain size and strength. Prohormones such as Ultradrol have caught my eye as well as serms. Unfortunately, I don't know enough to know what questions to ask or what I'm allowed to ask on this forum. So, if any of you fellas have the time or patience to steer me in the right direction, I would sincerely appreciate your help.

Thanks!

Welcome aboard Sir. We will all be glad to assist you to reach your goals. You can ask us any goddamn thing you want. No bullshit here. For example...fuck Ultradrol..It looks cool but the majority of people don't get much from it. We usually recommend P-mag or H-drol for your first run to see how your body reacts. Also read the sticky about PCTs. This is what helps you recover your natural Test between cycles. What are your goals for your first cycle. Size? Strength? Alpha Man?

[Ryzer]

Welcome aboard Sir. We will all be glad to assist you to reach your goals. You can ask us any goddamn thing you want. No bullshit here. For example...fuck Ultradrol..It looks cool but the majority of people don't get much from it. We usually recommend P-mag or H-drol for your first run to see how your body reacts. Also read the sticky about PCTs. This is what helps you recover your natural Test between cycles. What are your goals for your first cycle. Size? Strength? Alpha Man?

PHnewbie and I both started our first cycles earlier this year. Hdrol for him, Pmag for me. He gained 15lbs on a 6 week run, I gained 14. Lots of clean calories. Tunedsports has some great info to kind of use as a base of beginning knowledge. And the experience and advice from the guys in this thread is priceless. I've learned a ridiculous amount in the past 3-4 months. The biggest is probably individuality. What kicked ass for one may be crap for another. Read, listen, research, and give each cycle 100%. You'll soon find your groove and what works for you and what doesn't.

[Mrvenom808]

Welcome aboard Sir. We will all be glad to assist you to reach your goals. You can ask us any goddamn thing you want. No bullshit here. For example...fuck Ultradrol..It looks cool but the majority of people don't get much from it. We usually recommend P-mag or H-drol for your first run to see how your body reacts. Also read the sticky about PCTs. This is what helps you recover your natural Test between cycles. What are your goals for your first cycle. Size? Strength? Alpha Man?

I second this motion !!

[gp1963]

I'm 5' 11", a lean hard-gainer at 165.....I want to come up with a supplement plan to help me gain size and strength.

Welcome to the thread!

I'd say focus on your diet. No chemical will replace a solid eating plan. As a fellow lean guy, I learned the importance of eating as hard as I train. Consistant eating is criticial in my opinion. And it's not easy.

Keep track what you eat. Figure out how many calories you are eating. You may think your eating enough but if you log your diet and do the math, you may be surprised. And eating properly for a week or a month isn't enough. Long term consistancy is key.

[PHNewbie]

Welcome to the thread!

I'd say focus on your diet. No chemical will replace a solid eating plan. As a fellow lean guy, I learned the importance of eating as hard as I train. Consistant eating is criticial in my opinion. And it's not easy.

Keep track what you eat. Figure out how many calories you are eating. You may think your eating enough but if you log your diet and do the math, you may be surprised. And eating properly for a week or a month isn't enough. Long term consistancy is key.

This is solid advice. Diet & training then compounds.

That said, you may want to look at Mechabol as well.

[PHNewbie]

Time for more taurine. After finishing shoulders this morning I had to shut my treadmill run down only 10 minutes into it. My shins were killing me - shin pumps suck.

After bumping the taurine yesterday and this morning I was able to go for 11 minutes today. Whoo hoo, a whopping 10% increase.

[Ryzer]

K dudes, I have an idea. Not sure if it's a dumb one or not lol. Is bridging as simple as just ending one compound and immediately starting up another? Any changes needed in support supps, as far as increases maybe? I'm almost tempted to kill Ultra at the end of week 3 and pop open this bottle of SD for 4 weeks. Would make 7 weeks total of continuous run. Yes, no, maybe, fuck no??

[kbordner]

K dudes, I have an idea. Not sure if it's a dumb one or not lol. Is bridging as simple as just ending one compound and immediately starting up another? Any changes needed in support supps, as far as increases maybe? I'm almost tempted to kill Ultra at the end of week 3 and pop open this bottle of SD for 4 weeks. Would make 7 weeks total of continuous run. Yes, no, maybe, fuck no??

I would.....7 weeks isn't that bad. I never ran anything less than 6 anyway.

[Ryzer]

I would.....7 weeks isn't that bad. I never ran anything less than 6 anyway.

Big Dawg, what's the go-to for lethargy and libido? I know I've seen talk of Stano, anything else you'd recommend?

[jayisk]

K dudes, I have an idea. Not sure if it's a dumb one or not lol. Is bridging as simple as just ending one compound and immediately starting up another? Any changes needed in support supps, as far as increases maybe? I'm almost tempted to kill Ultra at the end of week 3 and pop open this bottle of SD for 4 weeks. Would make 7 weeks total of continuous run. Yes, no, maybe, fuck no??

I would go for it especially if you were not happy with the ultra run. I'd be pissed.
Stano seems to be the go to for lethargy and you can go with some type of stim if you can tolerate it. maybe eca a couple of times a day. That would probably burn some fat too, if you want that.

[kbordner]

I would go for it especially if you were not happy with the ultra run. I'd be pissed.
Stano seems to be the go to for lethargy and you can go with some type of stim if you can tolerate it. maybe eca a couple of times a day. That would probably burn some fat too, if you want that.

This^^^^^^

[Ryzer]

How bout libido?? My girl will kill me if my shit doesn't work lol

[Mrvenom808]

How bout libido?? My girl will kill me if my shit doesn't work lol

Id prob kill myself too

[mid40s]

How bout libido?? My girl will kill me if my shit doesn't work lol

As KB told me..."600-900mg of Stano"...I was back in action in less than a week

[ex-tightend83]

as kb told me..."600-900mg of stano"...i was back in action in less than a week

sold!!!

[Ryzer]

As KB told me..."600-900mg of Stano"...I was back in action in less than a week

I didn't realize stano was also good for libido. Found LGI's stano-200 for a great price. I'll give it a whirl

[gp1963]

I didn't realize stano was also good for libido. Found LGI's stano-200 for a great price. I'll give it a whirl

Helps w\ lethargy fo-sho. Come to think about it, didn't have libido issues either.

[kbordner]

Helps w\ lethargy fo-sho. Come to think about it, didn't have libido issues either.

You should always run Stano with your PH unless you are going to run Test. Then it won't matter.