60mg+ Epistane w/ Trenavar... How much Tren?

[HoLLo]

I ran an RPN Havoc cycle in January this year and am planning my 2nd cycle which will start around August or September. My previous Havoc cycle was my 1st PH run, so I did 6 weeks, at 20/30/30/40/40/50 testing waters. I had some great results, went from 209 to 220 in 6 weeks. At 40 and 50 I was not feeling any adverse side effects. I now have Epistane and feel I want to run it higher, but I'm also considering stacking Trenavar with it. I feel comfortable going in planning a higher dose, especially at my body weight, and using what I learned from my last cycle.

So, I can either run a low dose of Trenavar with a Epistane 60/60/60/60/60/60 or a high dose of Trenavar and a low dose of Epistane. I really liked the weight gain I had on the Havoc (same compound as Epistane), but want to step it up a notch. I noticed Trenavar is not methylated, which is a bonus.

Any suggestions what would be effective and safe for 6 weeks of a Epi/Tren stack? Thanks

[C-smooth]

Trenavar...never ran that ..but xten fucked my world up...solo...but im on Epi right fuckin now and it is sweet....looking freaky...lol

oh and my Epi is 8+weeks...well til I run out of pills...and im at 64mg.....lol

If I stay at 64mg it will be almost 10 weeks...oh shit...im gonna shit my liver out...(NOT)

[HoLLo]

How are you doing 64mg? The capsules are 10mg a pop. My 6 week Epi was good, the first few days of PCT was a little rough, whether it was due to the cycle or not, the first 2-3 days of PCT I was aching and tired, but nothing unbearable. Well worth the results.

[mac10chap]

Epivar is 18mg/cap. I assume that is what he is on.

[DevastatingDave]

If I was doing epi/trenavar it would be 40-50 epi and 45-60 tren for a mild-ish cycle. Trenavar at 75-90 would be really nice but unnecessary and expensive.

[HoLLo]

So if I ran 60mg Epi, how would 50mg Trenavar sound?

[chubzz]

So if I ran 60mg Epi, how would 50mg Trenavar sound?

On my last cycle as a bridge for about a week i was on 60epi and 60 trenavar, pretty good stuff. I liked epi about 10x more than trenavar though.

[HoLLo]

What made you like the Epi more than Trenavar? Was it possible that 60 is considered a high dose for Epi and 60 a low dose for Tren?

[chubzz]

What made you like the Epi more than Trenavar? Was it possible that 60 is considered a high dose for Epi and 60 a low dose for Tren?

I just thought epi was amazing. I felt lean, hard, solid vascular, i felt like i was growing by the day, and i felt amazing mentally. Tren? Eh. I held water like no other, some strength but nothing major, with i would of sold the tren and bought more epi and ran it longer and at a higher dose tbh.

[HoLLo]

What would your higher dose have been? I want to run 60, but I hear people running 100. I went from 209 to 220 running 20/30/30/40/40/50 and a few days at 60 over 6 weeks.

[chubzz]

What would your higher dose have been? I want to run 60, but I hear people running 100. I went from 209 to 220 running 20/30/30/40/40/50 and a few days at 60 over 6 weeks.

Well, i got sick for a week of the cycle, and lowered the dose to 20-30mg a day instead of 60. I only had 3 bottles but still at the last week i had extra pills to play with. I think i went up to 90-100 for a few days and felt like zeus.

[gsxr750rider]

I would probably start at 40mg epi and 60mg trenavar and increase accordingly. Those are both average doses of the two. See how you feel and then go in to the upper dosing of one or both compounds.

[stever07]

I started Tren solo at 40 just to see how it was. Didn't notice effects until I increased to 60+. I love it at 70. Might try 100 for last two weeks.

Makes me sweat like crazy, I've gained 6lbs and lost 5% bf in 6 weeks thus far. Eating 400 above maintenance. I'm 6'1" and 213 lbs.

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[pasamoto]

I started Tren solo at 40 just to see how it was. Didn't notice effects until I increased to 60+. I love it at 70. Might try 100 for last two weeks.

Makes me sweat like crazy, I've gained 6lbs and lost 5% bf in 6 weeks thus far. Eating 400 above maintenance. I'm 6'1" and 213 lbs.

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what! im on trenavar and love it too. but those numbers look suspect. unless you were fat to begin with. what was your startin weight and BF% and what is it now. your talking something like an 11lb fat mass loss. with a simultaneous 17lb lean mass increase.?

[stever07]

what! im on trenavar and love it too. but those numbers look suspect. unless you were fat to begin with. what was your startin weight and BF% and what is it now. your talking something like an 11lb fat mass loss. with a simultaneous 17lb lean mass increase.?

Checked my notebook. Started at 206, so actually gained 7 lbs. and 19% BF, which yes is high.

I have to admit I've been doing more cardio than before I started the cycle, and I'm literally always hot and almost always have a bit of a sweat going.

I'm also running exemestane 12.5mg eod which has helped lean me out.

Hope this helps.


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[HoLLo]

I would probably start at 40mg epi and 60mg trenavar and increase accordingly. Those are both average doses of the two. See how you feel and then go in to the upper dosing of one or both compounds.

This sounds pretty good. But I will probably be running 60mg Epi straight all 6 weeks, and adjust my Tren dose. So maybe a 60/60? This cycle is going to be more serious. My solo Havoc run was great, but this one is going beast mode.

[jdbrew5]

This sounds pretty good. But I will probably be running 60mg Epi straight all 6 weeks, and adjust my Tren dose. So maybe a 60/60? This cycle is going to be more serious. My solo Havoc run was great, but this one is going beast mode.

60+ is where you should be on your trenavar, I didn't get the real effect until I got to 75 (had the 15 mg caps)