My Superdrol Cycle (critiques, advice is welcome)

[JMoneyShot]

Stats:

Height: 6'3"
Weight: 230lbs (I'm currently on ec stack and will be cutting to 215-220)
Bench: 315x3
Squat: 300x3
Arms: 17.25

Goal

I want to put on ~15lbs of dry muscle, increase size and lifts.

Cycle

Superdrol (I've got 2 bottles with 90 caps each, Hard Rock Supps SD90)

30/30/30/40/40

I see a lot of people running shorter lower dosed cycles, and I may adjust to that. Obviously I don't want any liver or prostate problems. I just want to make sure I get the dosage high enough. I ran a h-drol cycle 75/75/75/75/75 and barely got anything out of it because of my size (I'm assuming).

I had a buddy just run this cycle except he had a 6th week of 40mg. He said he had high bp and a little hairloss. I'm 99% sure I don't have MBP but I want to prevent hairloss.

PCT

Nolva

40/40/30/20/20

I basically ran this when I did my h-drol and recovered perfectly. I upped the dosage to make up for the research serms not being 100% pure lulz

Clomid

85/50/50/50/35

I honestly may not even run the clomid, OR I may just run it at 50mg/day for 4 weeks. This is to make sure that I recover as fast as possible and to make sure I keep dat libido up and dose balls to size.

Other

I've got letro on hand to prevent gyno
d-aspartic acid starting last 3 days of cycle @ 3-6 grams per day for 4 weeks
Creatine mono throughout PCT @ 5-10 grams a day
ZMA - I've got 3 weeks left that I'll run starting on the same day as my PCT
Multi vitamin throughout
Liv52 throughout

If you guys have any advice that'd be great.
I may get an AI to run on cycle just in case I need it, better to be safe than sorry.
The reason I've dosed a lot of stuff high is because I plan to do a test e cycle in the near future (summer 2013) so I want to get as close to that as I can.

My diet will be around ~3200 calories and 250g+ of protein. Lifting 5 days a week and cardio one day a week.

Also should I stack the superdrol with anything? I've thought about it, I just don't want to fuk over my liver and I think I'll get good gainz with it.

inb4 strong 1st post lolz

[Newb5]

come on. 20mg sd for 4-5 weeks max is a very good cycle. doing 30mg-40mg for 5 weeks your first time is just stupid.

also, you really dont need nolva that high even if RC.

[JMoneyShot]

come on. 20mg sd for 4-5 weeks max is a very good cycle. doing 30mg-40mg for 5 weeks your first time is just stupid.

also, you really dont need nolva that high even if RC.

I think 20mg would be good if I weighed 170lbs.

I could do 30mg for 5 weeks that wouldn't bother me at all, cause if it wasn't enough I could just up it the last week It's my first SD cycle but not ph cycle in general

I'll lower the Nolva too 30/30/20/20/10 I just want to cover for the research serms being diluted since that seems to be the case a lot of the time. If it was pharma grade I would just run 20/20/10/10

I appreciate the feedback brah

[omar8]

Run 20/30/30/30, run nolva 20/20/10/10 with 1st 3 weeks 25mg aromasin, the 3/2/1 erase. No estro rebound that way.

[Nor-Natural]

take all your doses down 10-20 of SD and RC then we'll talk OP

[Newb5]

I think 20mg would be good if I weighed 170lbs.

I could do 30mg for 5 weeks that wouldn't bother me at all, cause if it wasn't enough I could just up it the last week It's my first SD cycle but not ph cycle in general

I'll lower the Nolva too 30/30/20/20/10 I just want to cover for the research serms being diluted since that seems to be the case a lot of the time. If it was pharma grade I would just run 20/20/10/10

I appreciate the feedback brah

youve done 1 cycle of halo; that doesnt mean jack shit man. and higher weight doesnt mean you need way higher doses. you dont know what youre talking about. sd is strong shit and should be treated as such. 20mg is plenty strong for most people.

[saywat2587]

ypuve done 1 cycle of halo; that doesnt mean jack shit man. and higher weight doesnt mean you need way higher doses. you dont know what youre talking about. sd is strong shit and should be treated as such. 20mg is plenty strong for most people.

Dude you're wasting your time. Look at his bench vs his squat. He just a pretty boy trying to be pretty.

[Bfunk18]

Run 20/30/30/30, run nolva 20/20/10/10 with 1st 3 weeks 25mg aromasin, the 3/2/1 erase. No estro rebound that way.

So, use aromosin for first three weeks of pct and then run erase at 3/2/1? Just am curious, I have seen either used but not both together. Can someone chime in? Thanks.

[bradray]

Superdrol is the strongest ph on the market. 30 mg is making people 200+ feel like death

[Nor-Natural]

log this, your gunna do it any way

[JMoneyShot]

youve done 1 cycle of halo; that doesnt mean jack shit man. and higher weight doesnt mean you need way higher doses. you dont know what youre talking about. sd is strong shit and should be treated as such. 20mg is plenty strong for most people.

I have no problem running 20mg. I'll start with this dosage for the first couple days but I do plan on upping it. Especially if I'm not getting any sides. I think higher weight/being a bigger person does mean you have to run higher dosages. Not trying to argue with you brah, I just want to make sure I get something out of it and not waste it like what basically happened with my h-drol cycle.

Dude you're wasting your time. Look at his bench vs his squat. He just a pretty boy trying to be pretty.

U mad brah? It's not a big deal and I plan on getting my squat max up a lot.

So, use aromosin for first three weeks of pct and then run erase at 3/2/1? Just am curious, I have seen either used but not both together. Can someone chime in? Thanks.

yes you can do that. it'll help prevent gyno. You can run a low dose 12.5mg ED or EOD on cycle too. If you're trying to prevent gyno, aromasin is good, nolva on PCT, and if youre really getting gyno run letro 2.5mg/day until it subsides

Superdrol is the strongest ph on the market. 30 mg is making people 200+ feel like death

One of my buds just ran it and was completely fine. keep in mind I will be doing cardio to keep my bp down. I'll be taking fish oil, hawthorne berry as well to help with bp

log this, your gunna do it any way

Starting mid september brah. Absolutely will log it

[JMoneyShot]

I don't mind taking them down 10mg, but I'm not gonna go below 20mg. I want to do 30mg for a few weeks as well too. If everything is going good I won't up it anymore but if I'm not getting the results I want I plan on upping to 40 for a week or so.

Is the concern, liver, kidneys, or too much of a shutdown of test production?

[saywat2587]

I don't mind taking them down 10mg, but I'm not gonna go below 20mg. I want to do 30mg for a few weeks as well too. If everything is going good I won't up it anymore but if I'm not getting the results I want I plan on upping to 40 for a week or so.

Is the concern, liver, kidneys, or too much of a shutdown of test production?

All the above plus heart, bp, etc etc. TBH you should be fine even with 40mg of sd but the main thing I can't stress is you've never taken sd so why blast away at 30-40mg when you might be able to achieve the same results with less sides at 20mg and plus you'd save enough to run another cycle too.

To me I could care less about the sides but to waste shit and take shit without knowing how you're body will respond is just dumb. Start at 20mg for 2 weeks and go from there. You won't be disappointed.

[JMoneyShot]

All the above plus heart, bp, etc etc. TBH you should be fine even with 40mg of sd but the main thing I can't stress is you've never taken sd so why blast away at 30-40mg when you might be able to achieve the same results with less sides at 20mg and plus you'd save enough to run another cycle too.

To me I could care less about the sides but to waste shit and take shit without knowing how you're body will respond is just dumb. Start at 20mg for 2 weeks and go from there. You won't be disappointed.

lulz that's what I figured.

If I can achieve the same results with less sides on a lower dosage then that's obviously what I'm going to do and what I'm aiming for. I don't know anyone else who's taken just sd before besides my friend. I've read up on a lot of cycles over sd and they are all lower dosed/duration (the same was true with the h-drol cycle I ran too though and I didn't get the results I wanted).

If you're saying I won't be disappointed I don't mind running a lower dose. Keep in mind I will weigh 215 at the absolute minimum. So maybe 20/20/30/30/40?

Should I stack it with something un-methylated? I was kind of thinking about doing this. Maybe I could get the best of both then and I could run the sd at a lower dosage.

I also added a pic to my profile, I can't seem to set it as my avi though. I'll get it up tomorrow morning. I just didn't want to be a no avi poster lulz

[omar8]

Here is the thing. If you are willing to run a cycle or two more, maybe even a stack, it gets ya used to recognizing sides. S.d treats me good but some guys get hit hard. You will want stano, that I promise. You can run at 20, if 30 sucks back off. 20 is a great producer. Nolva and aromasin plus erase is a solid long p.c.t. most of the gyno from s.d happens because of estrogen rebound and shows up after the cycle. This p.c.t should be used allways. With s.d any way. Research p.c.t,s become an expert. The juice forums are good.

[chubzz]

I say do it. Should be a stellar cycle.

[Newb5]

well maybe your expectations were/are to high also. what do you expect? bodyweight does not mean you have to dose higher. i can dose things much lower than many people and still get nice results. 20mg sd is strong enough and if not youre doing something wrong and/or expecting too much.

there are bigger guys with much more knowledge/experience and they feel like shit above 20mg. im not saying you absolutely cant go to 30mg but its should not be necessary.

[jcrsix]

listen to these guys man, experience! Anyways i just started my first sd cycle im 5"11 210. i started at 10mg and im loving it, on day 8 nio sides and weight is going up about a lb a day! i might just rock 10mgs the whole cycle if i keep gaining and keep the sides at bay! GL!
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[Bfunk18]

So, use aromosin for first three weeks of pct and then run erase at 3/2/1? Just am curious, I have seen either used but not both together. Can someone chime in? Thanks.

So, what would the doses of aromasin be the first three weeks of pct?

Aromasin 25/25/25/0/0/0
Erase 0/0/0/3/2/1
???

[JMoneyShot]

Here is the thing. If you are willing to run a cycle or two more, maybe even a stack, it gets ya used to recognizing sides. S.d treats me good but some guys get hit hard. You will want stano, that I promise. You can run at 20, if 30 sucks back off. 20 is a great producer. Nolva and aromasin plus erase is a solid long p.c.t. most of the gyno from s.d happens because of estrogen rebound and shows up after the cycle. This p.c.t should be used allways. With s.d any way. Research p.c.t,s become an expert. The juice forums are good.

I look into the stano (stanodrol, right? I'm not familiar with it. I will read about it and research but it'd be cool if you could aware me on it as well). A lot of you guys are saying to start at 20mg, so I'll take that advice and run 20mg for the first week to week and a half. If everything is going good I may keep it there, but I feel like I see the majority of sd cycles going into the 30mg range and maybe 40mg on the last week.

well maybe your expectations were/are to high also. what do you expect? bodyweight does not mean you have to dose higher. i can dose things much lower than many people and still get nice results. 20mg sd is strong enough and if not youre doing something wrong and/or expecting too much.

there are bigger guys with much more knowledge/experience and they feel like shit above 20mg. im not saying you absolutely cant go to 30mg but its should not be necessary.

If I feel great at 20mg I'll keep it there. If I'm not getting results after the first week and a half-2 weeks (which is when it should kick in) I'll be upping to 30mg.

Brah, higher bodyweight does mean you have to dose higher lol. It's that way with medicines, injections pretty much everything. I posted on a different forum awhile ago when I did my h-drol cycle and they all said I needed to dose higher because of bodyweight. It makes sense too, a bigger person is going to need more. If a 400lb dude drinks a beer he won't feel it, but if a 90lb dude drinks a beer he'll be drunk. Weak analogy but you get the idea.

listen to these guys man, experience! Anyways i just started my first sd cycle im 5"11 210. i started at 10mg and im loving it, on day 8 nio sides and weight is going up about a lb a day! i might just rock 10mgs the whole cycle if i keep gaining and keep the sides at bay! GL!
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Lol I'm starting at 20mg. Sd has a half life of like 9~hours, and I want it in my system the entire day. I honestly feel like 10mg is too weak. I'm glad you're getting results though brah! I always heard you lose the weight you gain in the first week over the course of your PCT.

So, what would the doses of aromasin be the first three weeks of pct?

Aromasin 25/25/25/0/0/0
Erase 0/0/0/3/2/1
???

I think Erase is an OTC PCT. I'm not running otc pcts so I don't know about that. Aware me on the product you're talking about
You don't need the aromasin unless you're trying to prevent gyno. I didn't run it on my h-drol cycle and I got no gyno whatsoever. Run nolva 20/20/10/10 aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5. That should honestly be plenty. If you're running an otc ptc (erase?) then you'll be covered even more.

[jimmy12]

bench: 315x3
squat: 300x3

lol

[JMoneyShot]

lol

do you even lift?

[saywat2587]

do you even lift?

He's laughing cause with a bench like that you should be squatting 450 and deadlifting 450-500 for reps. I push 250 and have squatted 4 plates for 6 and have deadlifted 5 plates for 3. Work on your legs brah cuz its apparent you just another arm guy. Unless you have some weird super unbalance strength in your arms/chest.

[bdubside45]

quick question gents, for a 6 week cycle of sd at 10 mg ed, pct- nolva at 20/20/10/10, with erase, anabeta, testforce 2, titanium xl, am i going overboard? if not how should i dose them, if im going overboard which should i cut out? any input is much appreciated

[phfreak]

I would suggest running hawthorn berry to help combat high bp. Also I would have taurine on hand to deal with back pumps.