Important Question...about next cycle

[C-smooth]

take some time, i think that there nolva is messing with you.

/2 cents

lol

[bradray]

It is the Nolva messing with you and give it another week and a half and you will be thinking straight. SD is not gonna be the next cycle you want to do, unless you stack or bridge it with something else. I would do some research on Trenavar or maybe Mechabol but not SD after all the progress you made on Epi, do not waste it on SD. Maybe try a h-drol/epi stack or something mild with some ment. But more than anything you need to chill ( be smooth ) and let the Nolva do it's thing for 4 weeks and then start planning your cycle for about 6 weeks after that

[aussieraven]

Ever done a cut straight after a bulk?Always feeling EXTREMELY hungry?This is the same thing, your body is just not used to the excess in androgens and your mind is telling you that because you're not on steroids somethings off, when actually it's quite the opposite.

Keep in mind if you jump back on gains will be very minimal it won't even be worth the risk, ask your wife to keep your head in the game and ride this out.It's easier when you have someone to support you

[lilcrate]

It's like getting the shakes from stopping drinking and curing them with alcohol. Sure you'll feel better, but you're still not going to get much of a buzz brah!

[andrewjx]

if you want to keep being on start injecting test.

doing long oral cycles is stupid. srs.

[CurlsRock]

haha first off the quote " Im thinking no more wife is hilarious ". But it seems that mentally you kind of already made up your mind....Its either you run the sd or you are going to have this empty feeling for a while. So i say you might as well just run the dam cycle and up your spirits...You know the risks your a big boy...I think you should go for it as long as you blood test are ok.

[CurlsRock]

Forgot to ask, what kind of gains did you get from your epi?

[reeves01]

Mate seriously, I was like that after my first cycle aswell but you have to stay mentally strong. After the 3rd cycle, I felt great through PCT and continued to grow and even trained better on some days when compared to when I was "ON".

It's not just about your balls, or being shut down that is the issue. After you do an oral cycle, your lipids and liver enzymes are out of whack and extremely elevated. It is best to get them into the normal range prior to starting another cycle.

If your convinced that it is the path you want to go, I would suggest getting bloods done and checking how out of whack your hormones are. If not too bad, then start again.

[dml11]

Where the FUCK is dml11 & Adrenolin

this is the kind of shit that we need them for

There really isn't anything that either of us could add to this conversation that you don't already know to be true.

[tech123]

Thank you my friend...and The lost feeling is BAD....its almost like I am alone in a room full of people.....but Im still, not even there im lost....you know what I mean.......sorta like my dog died.....but he didnt and wont for years.......but im not emotional....its fucked up....I tryed to talk to the wife...all she said was ...no more ph's.....im thinking no more wife...lol

Make sure you're doing all the normal stuff - getting enough sleep, eating at normal times (or 5 times a day or whatever) just don't let yourself miss meals because you're not feeling right or something. Maybe stay away from excessive stims or depressants, etc. Let your body normalize. It sounds like you're getting depressed - maybe it's hormonal shit from coming off your cycle, maybe not. Just go through the motions (fake it until you make it, etc.) until hopefully you feel normal again.

Also, exert some effort trying to "get out of yourself" - too much of this introspective "why do I feel this way", and "how does this make me feel", stuff can be depressing after a while. Try to find some stuff to do that isn't just you sitting around thinking about shit.

Starting a SD cycle isn't necessarily going to make you feel great either, especially after about 2 weeks when the lethargy starts kicking in.

Hope this helps.

[UTSoccerbro]

You realize you're about to pull some shiz that you'd advise anyone else not to do, right? You'll probably see short term benefit, but long term you're kinda shooting yourself in the foot -you'll need an even longer recovery period after this SD cycle.

Give yourself a rest, finish your PCT, and maybe do a short natty stack like ARA/Test booster/AI/DAA for a month and then hop back on. Give your mind a chance to recover. It sounds like it needs it more than your body.

[ikeepitreal]

I felt exactly the same way when i bridged SD /Hdrol. Took me about 3 weeks to recover and i did only because i wanted to cycle again and knew i had to take my lumps. If you do this, it is just going to prolong you into getting the next complete cycle due to the time off you are going to have to spend. Sooner or later you are going to have to go off and it should be sooner.

Hang in there and fight the mental game. One thing the mind will do is punch back.

I'm with you though!

[chubzz]

Honestly. Get bloods done, and i wouldnt be as worried about your liver as i would your cholesterol. Thats what im worried about. I ran 14 weeks of orals and my liver was fine, my cholesterol i know is fuckedddd.

Edit: Ohya forgot to mention ive been off pct for 2 weeks. Will be starting mecha in another 3 weeks or so

[heroOFtheDAY]

Sounds like a kozy thread.

Having said that.....grow the fuck up. You are now crossing the line from using steroids to abusing steroids.

[ikeepitreal]

Please read his Epi log before you make suggestion to to drop PCT and get back on. He did 8 weeks of EPI, really had a great cycle and maxed out at 80 + mgs. His cycle should be over and need to stay on his PCT.

Can't support this decision C-smooth sorry!!

[Madevilz]

Op needs to go to detox.