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This is a discussion on thinking out loud about SD within the Prohormone Forum forums, part of the Supplements Discussion category; is a low dosed run of SD (10mg/day) for a length upto 6 weeks something anyone here has done? i ...

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    thinking out loud about SD



    is a low dosed run of SD (10mg/day) for a length upto 6 weeks something anyone here has done? i know someone did a trial of low dosed SD but increased the dose later on... yay or nay for a 6 weeker SD run?
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    I feel it at 20mg also, doing this for 4 weeks.

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    I dunno what the point would be?

    You should have a reason for choosing the specific PH/cycle length/dose/etc.

    What, exactly, is your reason for running a low dose SD for 6 weeks? The question would then be... is a low-dose SD for 6 weeks a better option than other potential alternatives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASFh32 View Post
    I dunno what the point would be?

    You should have a reason for choosing the specific PH/cycle length/dose/etc.

    What, exactly, is your reason for running a low dose SD for 6 weeks? The question would then be... is a low-dose SD for 6 weeks a better option than other potential alternatives?
    the point would be that a 4 week cycle of superdrol would yield rapid weight gain, upwards of 20lbs, with which upto half will be lost during pct. longer cycles allow more gains to be solidified. at my current weight, i would rather take 5 to 7lbs of quality mass over a 6 week period and keep it all, rather than 20lbs of water, glycogen, and muscle, then to lose half in pct. at 250lbs, i highly doubt i will be able to retain that sort of gains. i know how to train and how to eat, so the gains will come, regardless of the doses. i will not compensate with high doses of steroids for a crappy diet and training. that being said, slow and steady is what i am looking for, not instant weight gain.


    oh, and my first cycle wont be superdrol.. it will be hdrol. just planning for the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmsimon View Post
    for a while, it seemed like low dose superdrol cycles were all the rage on here. People got ok results, but not as good if they did a standard cycle (although they did have fewer sides)

    it seems like many people on the forums dont know how to get the most benefits for the least cost. not pointing fingers at you, it just seems like a lot of people running these crazy cycles are compensating with tons of steroids for their shitty diet and training. i dont see why low doses shouldnt yield respectable results (im looking for 5 to 7lbs, upto 10lbs of quality mass) if diet and training are in order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmsimon View Post
    At 250 pounds, I think you're going to need significantly more than 10mg superdrol. That's not very much

    you're probably right. i wont cycle until im down to 220lbs. at 250, im around 20% bf and wanna get down to around 12 to 15% before i pop my first pill. i have no desire to be ripped... offseason bodybuilder or lean powerlifter/strongman is the look im going for. it sucks that i hold all my fat around my lower stomach and chest... not a very good look... sympton of high estrogen, maybe?
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    Perhaps you'd see better results and no sides with something like epi 20/20/20/20/30/30/30/30.

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    i did it recently. i primarily used it as a gda. Right before a carb heavy meal. I got decent results. but if you want explosive gains i wouldnt go under 20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baddog671 View Post
    Perhaps you'd see better results and no sides with something like epi 20/20/20/20/30/30/30/30.

    epi is something that i am definitely gonna consider running low doses for a prolonged period of time.


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    i did it recently. i primarily used it as a gda. Right before a carb heavy meal. I got decent results. but if you want explosive gains i wouldnt go under 20

    i am definitely not looking for explosive gains. slow, steady, quality mass is what i am after. i will always do cardio, even on cycle. no more dirty bulks for me either. just looking for quality gains that will last, nothing dramatic.
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    So if you want slow and steady, why not use a more typical, less harsh PH that will yield slow and steady results like mecha, ultradrol, tren, hdrol, etc. etc. etc. ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASFh32 View Post
    So if you want slow and steady, why not use a more typical, less harsh PH that will yield slow and steady results like mecha, ultradrol, tren, hdrol, etc. etc. etc. ?
    have 6 bottles of hdrol (2 bottles of helladrol), which will be my first cycle... probably used for recomp. also, because i have 3 bottles of superdrol which must be disposed of


    the typical protocol for superdrol is 20mg/day for 4 weeks, with side effects ranging from feeling like death to feeling like a god.. and huge gains, with a lot of it being lost in pct (compared to other ph's). why not a longer run of the same steroid at a lower dose? mg for mg, a shoter, more brutal run or a longer, more lenient run.... i will be shut down either way, why not go slightly longer at a lower dose to help solidify my gains?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gridiron View Post
    have 6 bottles of hdrol (2 bottles of helladrol), which will be my first cycle... probably used for recomp. also, because i have 3 bottles of superdrol which must be disposed of


    the typical protocol for superdrol is 20mg/day for 4 weeks, with side effects ranging from feeling like death to feeling like a god.. and huge gains, with a lot of it being lost in pct (compared to other ph's). why not a longer run of the same steroid at a lower dose? mg for mg, a shoter, more brutal run or a longer, more lenient run.... i will be shut down either way, why not go slightly longer at a lower dose to help solidify my gains?
    Why not kick start the weaker compound with the stronger one?

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    I change my recommendation to 50/50/50/75/75/75/75/75 Hdrol

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    Quote Originally Posted by trevor View Post
    Why not kick start the weaker compound with the stronger one?

    if ever i get the urge to blow up in size, i will do so... 4 weeks of sd at 20mg with 6 weeks of lmg at 100mg... that would allow me to acquire serious mass.


    Quote Originally Posted by Baddog671 View Post
    I change my recommendation to 50/50/50/75/75/75/75/75 Hdrol

    first cycle is open to opinions. first compound will definitely be halodrol. dose and length is subject to change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gridiron View Post
    have 6 bottles of hdrol (2 bottles of helladrol), which will be my first cycle... probably used for recomp. also, because i have 3 bottles of superdrol which must be disposed of


    the typical protocol for superdrol is 20mg/day for 4 weeks, with side effects ranging from feeling like death to feeling like a god.. and huge gains, with a lot of it being lost in pct (compared to other ph's). why not a longer run of the same steroid at a lower dose? mg for mg, a shoter, more brutal run or a longer, more lenient run.... i will be shut down either way, why not go slightly longer at a lower dose to help solidify my gains?
    Why use one of the strongest most toxic substances at all if you don't want to use it to its potential? You can use another less toxic substance to do the exact same thing.

    I mean, you're a grown man, you can run whatever you want. I really don't care either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASFh32 View Post
    Why use one of the strongest most toxic substances at all if you don't want to use it to its potential? You can use another less toxic substance to do the exact same thing.

    I mean, you're a grown man, you can run whatever you want. I really don't care either way.

    if superdrol is one of the strongest compounds out there, regardless of the dose, it should serve its purpose.. why do people go upto 200mg on halodrol? why not just use 20~30mg sd? if superdrol is as powerful as people claim....if training and diet is on point, i will gain... it really seems like a lot of people here expect the drugs to do everything for them..


    my rationale for considering a low dosed, longer run of sd... is a 6 week run of hdrol/mecha at 100mg/day or a 6 week run of epi at 60mg/day really that much "safer" than a 6 week run of supedrol at 10mg/day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gridiron View Post
    if superdrol is one of the strongest compounds out there, regardless of the dose, it should serve its purpose.. why do people go upto 200mg on halodrol? why not just use 20~30mg sd? if superdrol is as powerful as people claim....if training and diet is on point, i will gain... it really seems like a lot of people here expect the drugs to do everything for them..


    my rationale for considering a low dosed, longer run of sd... is a 6 week run of hdrol/mecha at 100mg/day or a 6 week run of epi at 60mg/day really that much "safer" than a 6 week run of supedrol at 10mg/day?
    I am with you at slow and steady wins the race. You do not have to become a hulk in 2 months. I am going to try to run SD at 10 mg for 6 weeks, but right now i am on my second week of SD at 10 mg and 5 weeks of epi at 40 and i am not sure if i can go another month, but i am sure gonna try Actually i think i will run out of epi long before i run out of SD. With this combo i am up 17 lbs in 5 weeks and have been trying to stay as clean on diet as possible and i refuse to miss a workout period. I did not get to where i am right now by being a slacker and relying on something to do all the work for me. My goal when i started was to gain 10-12 lbs of lean mass. I am there and beyond, but i really want to test my limits a bit and see where 8 weeks of epi with 6 weeks of SD will take me ( hopefully not the hospital lol ) Good luck with whatever you decide
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    Quote Originally Posted by gridiron View Post
    and my first cycle wont be superdrol.. it will be hdrol. just planning for the future.
    I thought you were finally going to cycle for a split second.

    I've heard of plenty of people getting nice quality gains off of a 10mg cycle.
    I do it because i can, i can because i want to, i want to because you said i couldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradray View Post
    I am with you at slow and steady wins the race. You do not have to become a hulk in 2 months. I am going to try to run SD at 10 mg for 6 weeks, but right now i am on my second week of SD at 10 mg and 5 weeks of epi at 40 and i am not sure if i can go another month, but i am sure gonna try Actually i think i will run out of epi long before i run out of SD. With this combo i am up 17 lbs in 5 weeks and have been trying to stay as clean on diet as possible and i refuse to miss a workout period. I did not get to where i am right now by being a slacker and relying on something to do all the work for me. My goal when i started was to gain 10-12 lbs of lean mass. I am there and beyond, but i really want to test my limits a bit and see where 8 weeks of epi with 6 weeks of SD will take me ( hopefully not the hospital lol ) Good luck with whatever you decide

    never understood why people are so impatient.. the lengths they will go to be big today.. boggles my mind. dont get me wrong, i will probably let my curiosity get the best of me and wade into deep water sooner or later, but i want to see how my body reacts before i start pushing the limits. go for it if you are upto the task brother. 17lbs in 5 weeks is very respectable and i hope you keep most of it during pct and beyond. keep working hard and do log that bish when it happens!


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    I thought you were finally going to cycle for a split second.

    I've heard of plenty of people getting nice quality gains off of a 10mg cycle.

    i want to cycle so bad, but i still dont feel like im ready. one of my new prerequisites to consider before i cycle is to go under the knife to fix my body up.. a separated clavicle, fractured wrist, and destroyed ankle isnt gonna agree with me on a dry compound. damn football



    i've read the same on other boards too, regarding the low dosed superdrol. i feel so out of place on these forums because everyone is cycling like 4 times a year... and i've only "done" one
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    I'm finding the slow and steady just fine. 5 to 7 lbs are reasonable to keep.

    Add that up throughout the yr and that's some serious gains.

    I don't know how you can do that if its 20 lbs in one cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradray View Post
    I am currently logging it right now 40 mg epi and 10 mg superdrol

    definitely gonna follow along.



    Quote Originally Posted by jayisk View Post
    I'm finding the slow and steady just fine. 5 to 7 lbs are reasonable to keep.

    Add that up throughout the yr and that's some serious gains.

    I don't know how you can do that if its 20 lbs in one cycle.

    exactly. a lot of noobs take the roids and gain 20lbs from noob gains, accelerated by steroids and before you know it, everyone HAS to gain 20lbs.. although on superdrol, its possible... glycogen and water weight
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    pfft superdrol at 10mg bump that to 30mg throw in some ultradrol at 20mg maybe 125mg MB and your good. Your liver will thank you later
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    i think lower dosed and slightly longer seems reasonable enough. im sure a lot of people do it, but just dont talk about it as much as the amount of people who run higher doses who are disappointed if they dont gain double digit poundage on the scale.

    also, i think a lot of people get tricked by sd. because it is so good at pulling water into the muscle people blow up the scale within 2 weeks, and then when that stops they think they need to up the dosage because its not "working" as good.

    run a log of it too. id read it...
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    i think lower dosed and slightly longer seems reasonable enough. im sure a lot of people do it, but just dont talk about it as much as the amount of people who run higher doses who are disappointed if they dont gain double digit poundage on the scale.

    also, i think a lot of people get tricked by sd. because it is so good at pulling water into the muscle people blow up the scale within 2 weeks, and then when that stops they think they need to up the dosage because its not "working" as good.

    run a log of it too. id read it...

    superdrol definitely builds serious muscle, but a lot of the scale weight is water and glycogen.. when i run it, i will definitely log.
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