Prevalence of gyno on Epi?

[Shepard]

Hi guys,

Mostly looking for any experiences and/or advice here.

I am in my sixth and final week of Epi, dosed at 30/30/40/40/50/50. Or that dose was the plan, at least, until I noticed some weird nipple soreness after about three days of increasing to 50mgs.

I immediately freaked out, dropped the Epi back to 40mgs, and started 20mgs of Nolva (in that order). I've been on the Nolva at 20mgs for about 6 days now.

I guess I'm wondering what the hell is going on - wasn't Epi supposed to have been a gyno treatment in Japan? Or was that just a rumor? At any rate, I thought Epi wasn't supposed to be able to cause gyno? I have heard of people saying that they may have gotten gyno on Epi before, but I mostly ignored those stories and assumed those guys were being anal or hypochondriacs about the gyno. Now that I've felt something, I'm not so sure.

What should I do? Stop the Epi? Or keep on the Epi and keep on the Nolva up to and through my PCT?

Thanks a lot for any help.

[bradray]

I have heard that sore and or puffy nips can be pretty common in ph/ds use. Keep in mind that epi is used to block estrogen binding and not suppress manufacturing by the body. So extra estrogen sometimes needs somewhere to go ( soft breast tissue comes to mind ) By the way, you aren't one of them nipple squeezing homos are you? For some reason there seems to be a lot of people that like to squeeze and or pinch their nips to see what it will do and or self pleasure themselves. If it were me i would have finished the 6th week and then went to pct. I am in my sixth week as well with epi and i am leaving my nips alone. Lumps and or hard deposits behind the nipple in my understanding are what gyno is

[Shepard]

Thanks for the reply, bradray. This is my first cycle of ph/ds, so I don't really know anything, but I agree with you in that I was under the impression that a little puffiness is normal, but soreness or hard lumps is not normal - and I definitely have those signs.

And no, I'm not a nipple-squeezing homo! LOL! I noticed them a little sore when I was in the shower - bathing, not doing any weird shit...

[Magog]

My nips get sore and irritated when I take DAA even. Your hormones are off to a certain degree...unless there is a hard lump, or some kind of lump I wouldn't worry. I find that adding in Mucuna L-Dopa or 1-Carboxy fixes sore titty disease pretty quickly.