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Gyno from DHEA??

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    Gyno from DHEA??


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    3 month ago i took 100mg of DHEA every day for 5 weeks. I recently came upon a post of some individual claiming he got gyno from taking DHEA so i inspected my nipples and when i squeeze them i feel a sort of a lump the size of a pea behind them, it is not super hard but definitely noticeable, and i get very very slight pain feeling when i squeeze on it. Otherwise my nipples are not at all sensitive and are not unusually puffy.

    By the way i just finished bulking and am around 20-22% body fat. Also i take 5g creatine a day.


    I haven't done any AAS or PHs although i was planning to run Epistane soon, so i have a bottle of PES ERASE on hand.

    Do i have gyno?
    Please let me know what you think based on your experience.
    Thanks a lot.
    I really hope this gets moved to the stupid question thread
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    Your fine. Stop squeezing your nipples.

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    Stop squeezing your fuckin' nipples.

    You will only drive yourself crazy worrying about gyno. When you actually have it, you will know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labelhunter View Post
    Your fine. Stop squeezing your nipples.






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    Stop squeezing your fuckin' nipples.

    You will only drive yourself crazy worrying about gyno. When you actually have it, you will know it.
    Exactly my response.

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    Get that BF% way down before you take Epi though or you're just asking to have problems with gyno, or rebound gyno afterwards. Higher BF means more aromatase and converting test --> more estrogen.

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    Thank you for your responses,

    Racinjay, thats kind of why i chose Epi in the first place, because it produces lean gains and helps cut bf as well.
    But please, let me know your thoughts.
    To what body fat % should i cut before starting my Epistane Cycle?

    The details of my cycle can be found in page 2 of this sub-forum titled "Epistane Cycle Critique Please"


    Thank you PH community

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    Quote Originally Posted by rakaka View Post
    To what body fat % should i cut before starting my Epistane Cycle?


    15%BF seems to be the ideal BF to be at before jumping on a cycle.


    Personally I think its a low fucking standard and 10% would be less chance for estrogen to aromatise from free test. And it's much kick ass aesthetically too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by srootone View Post
    15%BF seems to be the ideal BF to be at before jumping on a cycle.


    Personally I think its a low fucking standard and 10% would be less chance for estrogen to aromatise from free test. And it's much kick ass aesthetically too.
    I agree with this for the most part. 15% is the highest but I'm going to have to be lower for my next attempt because I get estrogen and gyno issues extremely easily. Maybe 10-12% would be ok for me. It all depends on your body but it would suck to have problems and not be able to fight the gyno due to BF, uphill battle...

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    Be a good idea and get some bloodwork done to see where everything is at before starting your future cycle.

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    Anybody have any links to the science behind BF% and gyno? I'm thinking it has more to do with genetics than just having high body fat. I've talked to many a chubby power lifter that has no problems while on Test + Dbol, then you come here and read about these already lean dudes getting gyno from compounds that don't aromatize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnyTallFatguy View Post
    Anybody have any links to the science behind BF% and gyno? I'm thinking it has more to do with genetics than just having high body fat. I've talked to many a chubby power lifter that has no problems while on Test + Ddbol, then you come here and read about these already lean dudes getting gyno from compounds that don't aromatize.
    Don't quote me, but I believe fat tissue has high concentrations of aromatase. I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will chime in...

    Either way, your conclusion about gyno being related to genetics isn't necessarily supported by your statements. (Though I am sure genetics could factor into it, like almost anything else.) Of course, some people with higher body fat levels can run an aromatizing cycle and not get gyno; but the fact they don't get gyno, doesn't mean body fat doesn't make it more likely that they could. As well, lean dudes getting gyno from non-aromatizing compounds doesn't mean much. The gyno can be related to the fluctuating hormone levels when coming off in pct (estrogen rebound, bunk SERMs) or it can be progesterone related. Now if there was a lot of natty (i.e., not using steroids) lean dudes that get gyno, that'd add more support to your statement. I had pubertal gyno, but I was a chubby fuck with >15% body fat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnyTallFatguy View Post
    I've talked to many a chubby power lifter that has no problems while on Test + Dbol, then you come here and read about these already lean dudes getting gyno from compounds that don't aromatize.


    Most those posts your reading are by paranoid little bitches who had no place messing with steroids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by srootone View Post
    Most those posts your reading are by paranoid little bitches who had no place messing with steroids.
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    Every one has lumps behind their nipples, its called glands. Doesnt matter where a gland is if you squeeze it...it will hurt. Bf% does play a part in gyno, its the "feminine" fat areas that have the highest degree of aromostase. I spent literally days worth of hours looking this up i dont have the links on hand because of the sheer volume of researchig i did. Of course that doesnt mean if you have high bf that you will gt gyno, it means the internal environment is properly set for it. You still have to cause the gland itself's growth factor to be activated which you will have plenty of time to feel coming, not because it is sensitive...but because it will jut out of your skin. At the low dose of dhea you mentioned it prolly wouldnt aggravate estrogen to enough of a degree to activate your glands growth. Having sensitive nipples is part of having a hormonal imbalance caused by a ph/ds, its part of having androgenic effects imparted by the substance... It affects sex organs and yes your man titties are just that. Take the ECA stack, bust your ass and while you do that hit the research on epi/AI's/serms/prolactin inhibitors and testosterone while you are gettin your fat in check then you will be in the right place to hit up a ph/ds cycle without paranoid fears and to achieve the best results while doing so
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    thank you everyone for chiming in.

    I'm getting a blood test tomorrow. So far i have been cutting for a week, and i will keep cutting for another month or so as many people have suggested that starting a cycle with a lower bf% is better.

    When i take start my Epistane cycle, do you guys suggest i eat over maintence? (im mainly looking for strenth gains)

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    If you just want strength gains and to cut epi will do that for you without having to go over maintenance.
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