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    what is this?


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    Androst-3,5-Diene-7,17-Dione

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by spartan300 View Post
    Androst-3,5-Diene-7,17-Dione

    thanks

    a purported 7-keto dhea metabolite that acts as an aromatase inhibitor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    a purported 7-keto dhea metabolite that acts as an aromatase inhibitor
    So could you get an AI effect with enough 7-keto?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FCrane View Post
    So could you get an AI effect with enough 7-keto?
    What would be the benefit of using it over a multitude of other options? Curious

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadaim View Post
    What would be the benefit of using it over a multitude of other options? Curious
    Hmm well for one 7-keto increases TSH. So if you take enough of it maybe it will increase your metabolism AND increase test.... and that's nothing but pure WIN!

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    Nice, 7-keto/11-keto stacks

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    Quote Originally Posted by FCrane View Post
    So could you get an AI effect with enough 7-keto?

    highly doubt it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    highly doubt it
    Party pooper

    I still like 7-keto though

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    Quote Originally Posted by FCrane View Post
    Party pooper

    I still like 7-keto though
    the whole family of 7-oxygenated dhea metabolites are fascinating compounds, for many reasons other than aromatase inhibition. The compound under discussion here is not a major metabolite though, and so its very unlikely you could acheive therapeutic drug levels in your body by ingesting any reasonable amount of 7-keto
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    yes, "Erase" by performance enhancing supplements just released this ingrediant as a standalone,

    its marketed as a AI and cortisol supplement in 1.

    this company has impressed me so far....and they are marketing this as a top of the line AI product.
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    was researching PES erase and came across this thread, stuff is on uber sale on a diff website.

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    This stuff does not appear to decrease estradiol by any significant amount at the recommended doses.
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    D-Asparic Acid 4000MG
    Androst-3,5-Diene-7,17-Dione 90MG

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    Quote Originally Posted by user376 View Post
    This stuff does not appear to decrease estradiol by any significant amount at the recommended doses.

    can you elaborate? have you seen blood tests or something? what about testosterone

    actually, i would prefer an AI that does not really lower estrogen but just increases testosterone. most people dont need to lower their estrogen (to do so is not always desirable) - they really just need to increase their testosterone to estrogen ratio
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oper8 View Post

    D-Asparic Acid 4000MG
    Androst-3,5-Diene-7,17-Dione 90MG
    That's interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oper8 View Post

    D-Asparic Acid 4000MG
    Androst-3,5-Diene-7,17-Dione 90MG
    Asparic, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    Asparic, lol
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    OTHER INGREDIENTS:
    Maltodextrin, Magnesium Sterate, Silicone dioxide

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    Quote Originally Posted by smt11 View Post
    On their webpage:


    OTHER INGREDIENTS:
    Maltodextrin, Magnesium Sterate, Silicone dioxide
    That's just used as a machine lubricant so it's easier to make the caps. Found in lots of products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oper8 View Post
    D-Asparic Acid 4000MG
    Androst-3,5-Diene-7,17-Dione 90MG
    That product is formulated by THEHUGE (Italian formulator of Bioforge)

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    interesting. anyone ran this or currently using this compound?

    that methoxy vol looks interesting if it's legit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morguk View Post
    That's just used as a machine lubricant so it's easier to make the caps. Found in lots of products.
    Silicon isn't the same thing as Silicone.

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    silicon is the element. silicone refers to silicon based polymers.

    obviously the label has a typo
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