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have you tested the liposomal deer antler technology?

This is a discussion on have you tested the liposomal deer antler technology? within the Q & A with Patrick Arnold forums, part of the Supplements Discussion category; hey PA always read your posts quick question have you tested the liposomal deer antler technology by S.W.A.T.S.?? if not.......... ...

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    have you tested the liposomal deer antler technology?


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    hey PA
    always read your posts

    quick question
    have you tested the liposomal deer antler technology by S.W.A.T.S.??
    if not.......... maybe i could purchase one and send it to you and get tested?

    here is what they post about it
    There are various methodologies used to get nutrients into the human body. Nutrients are used by cells for everything from making hormones or other important substances to being the building blocks the cells use to manufacture 150 billion new cells daily.
    It is a known fact that consuming any supplement via the digestive system would give the user anywhere between a maximum of 10% absorption to 0% nutrient intake. This means that at least 90% of the nutritional benefit is eliminated in nearly all capsules, tablets, powders, liquids, and even food.
    Scientists were called on to improve this dismal delivery system. They developed the sub-lingual delivery system that could be used for a very limited amount of nutrients, mainly because of their size. This delivery system is very limited and has many drawbacks as well. Absorption can be doubled to 20% and rarely, but a possible 50% absorption with certain nutrients.
    The very delicate and unique nutritional properties of S.W.A.T.S Sports Spray (such as IGF-1 and other growth factors) would be completely destroyed by the hydrochloric acid bath in the stomach if digested. Even though many of the amino acids, minerals, and some vitamins found in antler velvet can be absorbed via the digestive tract, the dozens of rare and extremely unique nutrients would be destroyed before they could be used by the body. A sub-lingual system would provide a slightly better absorption, but many of the unique nutrients would either not be able to pass through the mucosa or be destroyed by saliva.
    S.W.A.T.S Sports Spray uses a patented delivery system called liposomes to delivery the hundreds of different life-changing nutrients directly into the cells. This is the most effective way known to man to get therapeutic substances into the human body where they can be effectively used by the cells, organs, and systems. This delivery system also allows these nutrient substances to remain intact and not be altered, weakened, or destroyed during the delivery process.
    Phospholipids liposomes are the basic building block of every cell membrane in the human body. Phospholipids had a tendency to create vaccules or “bubbles” in an aqueous solution. These “bubbles” or hollow spheres are called liposomes. The average size of a liposome is around 200 nanometers in diameter. This is 1/5,000 of a millimeter.
    S.W.A.T.S Sports Spray uses these microscopic liposomes to “encase” the delicate and life-enhancing nutrients so they may be easily and effectively taken into the cells. It is these sub-microscopic liposomal spheres that are why users of S.W.A.T.S Sports Spray receive such dramatic results. Since the body is literally held together with phospholipids, these liposomal spheres are readily accepted by the body as essential building materials. The phospholipid sphere is used by the cell to enhance the cell wall and the nutrients inside the sphere are used by the cell to live, function, and create new cells. Because of the lipsome’s tiny size, they are able to be quickly assimilated into the bloodstream for delivery throughout the body. Cells need nutrients 24/7 in order to live, function, and create new cells. These nutrient packed liposomes are readily brought into the cells, where they strengthen and enhance cellular function.
    S.W.A.T.S Sports Spray is sprayed into the mouth, where the phospholipid spheres easily penetrate the mucosal layers of the mouth and go directly into the blood stream. It is the spheres that protect the nutrients, allowing on average 97% absorption directly into the blood stream within one minute. A sub-lingual system does not encase the nutrients, rather trying to get the nutrients to absorb through the mucosa in the mouth alone.
    Therefore, the unique patented liposmal delivery system that S.W.A.T.S Sports Spray utilizes to deliver these rare and life-changing nutrients is the most advanced and most effective in the world. No other delivery system can come close to 97% absorption AND keeping the nutrients intact, via being encased within the liposome spheres.



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    what would i be testing for?
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    What compounds are in it and if it really elevates igf-1

    or if it is another scam
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    Quote Originally Posted by RIPO1977 View Post
    What compounds are in it and if it really elevates igf-1

    or if it is another scam
    i cant test for igf-1 or protein molecules. i cant help you out with this one
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    I know nothing about the 'deer antler technology', but the rest of their products look like crap... all based on chinese medicine lol

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    Mr strive, future doc. Strive

    do you think the deer antler really works??
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    Quote Originally Posted by RIPO1977 View Post
    Mr strive, future doc. Strive

    do you think the deer antler really works??
    works for this guy

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    This stuff has been around for a really long time. I know NOW has always had a spray. The fact that the article makes it out to be the equivalent of injected HGH is hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIPO1977 View Post
    Mr strive, future doc. Strive

    do you think the deer antler really works??
    apparently they harvest the developing antlers for the growth factors present in them, but whether they'll have a significant effect on humans I have no idea... kind of like the products that have powdered, orchic (testicular) extracts in them. Whether they're safe and/or effective for humans, not a clue... If I had to guess, I'd say it's all over-hyped crap.

    On a side note, I bet S.W.A.T. will sell a shit ton of product in the next week after that article

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    thank you PA and Dr. Strive
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    PA,
    wonder if Deer Antler will help "Precious" the dog? ( 'will superdrol help me' - thread! )
    hahahaha
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    I am at least curious by this stuff after reading the article. Roy Williams isn't the brightest however I don't think.

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    Im doing a little blog about Chinese Medicine and athletes on another board.

    My recent entry was Seal Penis and testicles. Since this is a weird thread, Ill post about Seal Penis right here. Keep in mind, I'm just researching so don't take my understanding of TCM as anything definitive.
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    One of the most popular TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) for Chinese athletes is Dalishen Oral Liquid

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    This is kinda sad...and I dont think Ill use it because I do like animals and many seals are being slaughtered for the purpose and they are endangered, but I will still cover it as it is relevant in my topic.
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    Seals Penis and Testes are considered a kidney yang tonic. Traditionally it is used as a male tonic to help with impotency problems.

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    Jing not only is depleted by ejaculation, but everyday activities, life stress, working stress and especially training stress may also deplete Jing, although ejaculation would put the biggest strain on Jing.

    Now the issue is why do Chinese athletes consume seal penis/testes? Heavy physical training and over training puts strain on Jing, therefore depletes it. I would say the actions of seal penis and testes is as a kidney yang tonic and also restoring Jin....but that's me using bro-science as I don't have an unlimited english source of information to go buy, plus my very rookie knowledge of TCM. So if stress depletes Jing, and in TCM prescribe Seals Penis for impotency, and both ejaculation and stressful training deplete Jing, it makes sense to me why athletes are taking Dalishen Oral Liquid for performance benefits.

    It looks like keeping a strong Jing boosts athletic performance, and keeping it that way is good for the long run for long term successful training performance and especially for preventative measures on over-training. Also, on another note, over-ejaculation is bad for training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimJongIl View Post
    Im doing a little blog about Chinese Medicine and athletes on another board.

    My recent entry was Seal Penis and testicles. Since this is a weird thread, Ill post about Seal Penis right here. Keep in mind, I'm just researching so don't take my understanding of TCM as anything definitive.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------

    One of the most popular TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) for Chinese athletes is Dalishen Oral Liquid

    Dalishen Oral Liquid = mainly of seal penis and testes

    This is kinda sad...and I dont think Ill use it because I do like animals and many seals are being slaughtered for the purpose and they are endangered, but I will still cover it as it is relevant in my topic.
    Seals killed for penis and testes to make Chinese performance enhancers - National Green Living | Examiner.com

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    Seals Penis and Testes are considered a kidney yang tonic. Traditionally it is used as a male tonic to help with impotency problems.

    Seal testicles, dog penis, seahorse, and dear antlers are all used to give a boost in sexual vitality in TCM. Keep in mind that in TCM they dont just prescribe medicine, but also lifestyle changes are essential as well. With libido/impotence issues they would also advise to reduce the amount of ejaculations in any given week, especially as your age increases (prevention measures too) and ejaculations deplete "Jing"
    which refers to our overall "essence" specifically for Kidney essence.

    Jing not only is depleted by ejaculation, but everyday activities, life stress, working stress and especially training stress may also deplete Jing, although ejaculation would put the biggest strain on Jing.

    Now the issue is why do Chinese athletes consume seal penis/testes? Heavy physical training and over training puts strain on Jing, therefore depletes it. I would say the actions of seal penis and testes is as a kidney yang tonic and also restoring Jin....but that's me using bro-science as I don't have an unlimited english source of information to go buy, plus my very rookie knowledge of TCM. So if stress depletes Jing, and in TCM prescribe Seals Penis for impotency, and both ejaculation and stressful training deplete Jing, it makes sense to me why athletes are taking Dalishen Oral Liquid for performance benefits.

    It looks like keeping a strong Jing boosts athletic performance, and keeping it that way is good for the long run for long term successful training performance and especially for preventative measures on over-training. Also, on another note, over-ejaculation is bad for training.
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    And they say eating bull testicles increases test..

    Once the animal dies the residual testosterone that's bound in the testes starts decaying.. It's not like the test is bound to the carrier proteins when you consume it especially if it's cooked ..I think it's all a load of bull. (ironic)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrYmAsTeR17 View Post
    And they say eating bull testicles increases test..

    Once the animal dies the residual testosterone that's bound in the testes starts decaying.. It's not like the test is bound to the carrier proteins when you consume it especially if it's cooked ..I think it's all a load of bull. (ironic)
    The seal penis and testicles aren't used in TCM for test boosting purposes, so that wouldn't necessarily be relevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan4cmk View Post
    PA,
    wonder if Deer Antler will help "Precious" the dog? ( 'will superdrol help me' - thread! )
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    ^That's disturbing. Look what superdrol did to precious..he's a monster now..
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrYmAsTeR17 View Post
    ^That's disturbing. Look what superdrol did to precious..he's a monster now..
    no more disturbing than your avatar
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