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human chorionic gonadotropin after a bottle of PES Erase?

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    human chorionic gonadotropin after a bottle of PES Erase?


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    I was wondering if it is ok to take Inject able HCG less than two weeks after finishing a bottle of erase and natural test booster alpha maxx?

    Im not sure if these other question belongs in this section but,

    If I was going to run a cycle

    Hdrol- 75/75/75/100/100/100
    stano 200- 600/600/600/600/600/600

    would it be beneficial to run HCG with the cycle and then run a serm for pct. If so what dosage of hcg and sub Q or IM?

    Thanks

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    Not sure about the hcg, but definitely yes to the SERM. I have heard h-drol is quite the shutting down compound

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    hcg is best used during a cycle and then serm after

    use a normal dosage
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    250 iu's hcg e4d worked fine for me. Don't use hcg during pct or you won't start producing endogenous LH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    hcg is best used during a cycle and then serm after

    use a normal dosage
    Excuse my ignorance but what is the reason for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Bri View Post
    Excuse my ignorance but what is the reason for that?
    the poster above you pretty much answered your question

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    the poster above you pretty much answered your question
    I was looking for the reasoning for it? William Llewellyn advises in Anabolics 9th Ed. not to run HCG during cycle and to save it for PCT and shows studies that show it to be effective in that way. However, I appreciate that PA has a tremendous knowledge and was wondering why he advocates differently.

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    HCG will shut down your pituitary LH production. This is not an issue so much during cycle because it will be shut down regardless pretty much. It is taken during cycle because it will keep the testicles from atrophying

    SERMs and AIs will stimulate the entire HPTA but will only work post cycle
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    this is true... HCG will suppress your natural gonadotropins and prevent a full recovery. Now, it doesn't mean that while on the HCG that your boys wont be working or that your testosterone is low, but your LH would be suppressed.
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