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#1 Madol(aka)DMT

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 02:33 AM

I've noticed tons of newbs and general ?'s lately about how to use compound X without even knowing what it is. Hopefully this chart I made can help clear up some continous general questions. If there's any suggestions for additions or modifications let me know. I want to thank Mass_69 for helping with some updates!


Nomenclature/Chemical naming info:

For reference:

etioallocholan = 5a-androst = 'a skeleton' or 'a isomer'

etiocholan = 5b-androst = 'b skeleton' or 'b isomer'

17beta-hydroxy = 17b-ol

estra = 19-norandrost



1-AD (1-androstenedione) 1-androstene-3b,17b-dione or androst-1-ene-3b,17b-dione

1-AD (1-androstenediol) 1-androstene-3b,17b-diol or androst-1-ene-3b,17b-diol

4-AD (4-androstenedione) 4-androstene-3b,17b-dione or androst-4-ene-3b,17b-dione

4-AD (4-androstenediol) 4-androstene-3b,17b-diol or androst-4-ene-3b,17b-diol

1,4AD (Boldione) 1,4-androstadiene-3b,17b-dione or androst-1,4-diene-3b,17b-dione

M1,4AD (Dianadiol) 17a-methyl-1,4-androstadiene-3b,17b-diol or 17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3b,17b-diol

19-Tren X (Pro-Dienolone) 19-norandrosta-4,9-diene-3b,17b-dione or estra-4,9-diene-3b,17b-dione

Max LMG 13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)-diene-17-one

Orastan-A (Furazabol THP) 5a-androstano[2,3-c]furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol ether

Orastan-E (Stanozol THP) [3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17b-tetrahydropyranol

Halodrol-50 (Turinadiol) 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3b,17b-diol

Promagnon-25 (Methyl-Clostediol) 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-4-ene-3b,17b-diol

Propadrol 12-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-diene-17 6-17 dihydroxyetiocholove-3-ol proponate

11-OXO (Adrenosterone) 4-androstene-3,11,17-trione or 11-oxo-androstenedione

Methoxy-TRN 17b-methoxy-trienbolone

Methoxy-TST 17b-methoxy-trienosterone

19-Nor (19-norandrostenediol) 19-nor-4-androsten-3b,17b-diol or 19-norandrost-4-ene-3b,17b-diol

5AA (5-alpha-androstanediol) 5a-androstane-3b,17b-diol

M5AA (Mestanolone) 17a-methyl-5a-androstanediol

3-Alpha (3-alpha-androstanediol) 5a-androstane-3alpha,17b-diol

M1T (Methyl 1-Test aka 17aa-1-testosterone) 17a-methyl-1-androstene-3-one-17b-ol or 17a-methyl-5a-androst-1-ene-3-one-17b-ol

Superdrol (Methyldrostanolone) 2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-ol or 2a,17a-dimethyl-etiocholan-3-one-17b-ol

Pheraplex (Madol or DMT) 17a-methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol or 17a-methyl-5a-androst-2-ene-17b-ol

Ergomax LMG (Ergo Matrix) 17a-methyl-delta-2-etioallocholane

Epithio (Havoc or Epistane) 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol or 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-etioallocholan-17b-ol

Methyl-D (Methyl Dienolone) 17a-methyl-19-Norandrosta-4,9(10)-diene-3-one-17b-ol or 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-estra-4,9(10)-diene-3-one

M4OHN (Methylhydroxynandrolone) 17a-methyl-4-hydroxy-19-norandrost-4-ene-3-one or 17a-methyl-4-hydroxy-estra-4-ene-3-one

4OHT (hydroxytestosterone) 4-hydroxy-androst-4-ene-3-one-17b-ol or 4,17-dihydroxy-androst-4-ene-3-one

MDHT (methyl-DHT/mestanolone) 17a-methyl-5a-androstane-3-one

Below is information such as estimated half life and A:A ratio's on certain compounds. I'll update more as I find further info as much of it is compiled from original manufacturer claims and as such this should be used for reference purposes only. If anyone sees anything they can add or change please let me know.

Anabolic to Androgenic ratio's based on original manufacture claims and Vida info. Note many other unseen factors come into play that aren't apparent in the ratio's such as progesterone activity, and how 'strongly' a compound binds to the androgen receptors. For example Masteron has a relatively low A:A ratio and a pretty low androgenic # of about 25 but it binds very strongly and/or with high affinity compared to other compounds. Q-Factor is the anabolic # divided by androgenic #. Some anabolics are listed with a 'range' for the most accurate possible estimate. Methyl Testosterone is the oral of which all other orals are compared, just as IM Test is to other injectibles:

It didn't copy and paste some of it but here is the link.

Credit- Ziquor of CEL.

This is the best sticky that I have ever read.

#2 Madol(aka)DMT

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 02:34 AM

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Hopefully someone with a higher post count and put in the link for me.:(

edit: done :)

Edited by SplashN96, 15 January 2009 - 09:49 PM.


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Posted 11 November 2008 - 03:11 AM

great post, sticky worthy for sure.

I'm guessing by your name that your a Phera lover?
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#4 ProWrestleFan

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 10:00 AM

Nice post man.

#5 Madol(aka)DMT

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 02:10 PM

great post, sticky worthy for sure.

I'm guessing by your name that your a Phera lover?


Yes, the only steroid I have used, used it 2x with awesome results.

Nice post man.


Thanks Pro, Can I pm one of you guys with the link so people can see the rest of the post?

#6 Taurus

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 02:16 PM

Yes, the only steroid I have used, used it 2x with awesome results.



Thanks Pro, Can I pm one of you guys with the link so people can see the rest of the post?

good post. working on a fix for the image issue for you now. please PM me the link.

edit: are you an AX rep?

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 02:19 PM


edit: are you an AX rep?


I wonder this as well

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#8 Madol(aka)DMT

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 02:19 PM

good post. working on a fix for the image issue for you now. please PM me the link.

edit: are you an AX rep?


No, just a fan. I am not a rep or anything like that.

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 02:20 PM

OTC Hormone Chart


in before mod fixing :D

#10 Adrenolin

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 02:25 PM

No, just a fan. I am not a rep or anything like that.


me too...:D

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#11 Taurus

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 02:28 PM

No, just a fan. I am not a rep or anything like that.

just checking because of your avatar... company reps must identify their affiliation in their sigs. image all set :)

OTC Hormone Chart


in before mod fixing :D

lol, that link takes you off of this site to AM :eek: noooooooo!

I highly recommend Toco-8, on or off cycle. This is an outstanding product.


http://www.primordia...ner.php?bid=151


Possibly the best legal anabolic currently available...

Primordial Performance SUPERDRONE Liqua-Vade!

Not much left! Lowest price guaranteed! Free shipping over $50!


#12 Madol(aka)DMT

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 02:31 PM

just checking because of your avatar... company reps must identify their affiliation in their sigs. image all set :)

lol, that link takes you off of this site to AM :eek: noooooooo!


Hey Taurus can you get the other 2 pictures from there as well? There is one for designers just the the PH one and A-A ratio.

No I wish I were a rep for a company that I trust but nothing as of yet. Sorry for any confusion.

#13 TheLBM

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 02:32 PM

just checking because of your avatar... company reps must identify their affiliation in their sigs. image all set :)

lol, that link takes you off of this site to AM :eek: noooooooo!


You want me to delete it?

#14 Taurus

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 02:37 PM

You want me to delete it?

no man, it's ok. the chart is on top now & if people want to click through to read more about the post & see where it came from, it's all good :)

I highly recommend Toco-8, on or off cycle. This is an outstanding product.


http://www.primordia...ner.php?bid=151


Possibly the best legal anabolic currently available...

Primordial Performance SUPERDRONE Liqua-Vade!

Not much left! Lowest price guaranteed! Free shipping over $50!


#15 TheLBM

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 02:42 PM

no man, it's ok. the chart is on top now & if people want to click through to read more about the post & see where it came from, it's all good :)


:cool:

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 12:36 AM

Yes, the only steroid I have used, used it 2x with awesome results.


Phera is by far (in my opinion) the best one there is. :D
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Posted 22 August 2009 - 06:27 AM

Nice post, great info broski
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 05:01 PM

why were the DS deleted?




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