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#1 bickyrobby

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 03:45 PM

This is a post of which of the more commonly used PHs produce water weight and which do not.

Dry Compounds:

H-drol

Superdrol

Epistane

Furuza-A

11-OXO

Protodrol

Tren

Dymethazine

Stanodrol

P-mag (may have a little water weight but overall is pretty dry)

D-plex

P-Stanz

Ultradrol

Trenavar

Wet Compounds:

M14add

M-LMG

Phera Plex

Alpha one

Propadrol
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 12:59 AM

ok.
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 01:21 AM

Figured someone new to PHs would like to know this

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 01:56 AM

Why would someone prefer a wetter compound?

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 02:50 AM

Why would someone prefer a wetter compound?


the added mass & joint support makes for rapid & enjoyable & easier on joint strength gains.
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 10:39 AM

Oh man that makes sense!

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 08:36 PM

Figured someone new to PHs would like to know this


im personally thankful for this.... so thanks! I was actually wondering if there was a guide like this the other day.

btw dont let robertowns get you down, he is menstruating...


ok i must add this in here - Robert, I always thought ur username was robert towns... I never really understood what it meant, infact i thought you were just interested in geography (srs). Now I realize that your user name is robert owns...

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 08:41 PM

What an idiot :yodawg:^^^^

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 01:57 AM

ok.

Dick.

Good post. This is what this part of the forum is for.

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 12:02 PM

ok i must add this in here - Robert, I always thought ur username was robert towns... I never really understood what it meant, infact i thought you were just interested in geography (srs). Now I realize that your user name is robert owns...


That's how I read it as well. Sorry man!

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 08:35 PM

slightly disagree on a few-depending in diet
dzine-pmag and sd-- can all be wet for some
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Posted 01 April 2012 - 05:04 PM

Looking to start my first advanced ph cycle, what sort of gains can be expected from a sd/dzine/m-lmg stack. I see you have sd and dzine listed with dry gains and m-lmg with wet. So my question is should I expect a good portion to be wet gains or dry with said stack? Good post btw imo, rather informative.
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 01:57 AM

Dude your 19, don't stack all those three. Im not going to even bother to tell you to not cycle at all because your probably past that stage already and won't listen to anyone anyways.

Just run solo cycles.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 10:23 PM

While I see the help in placing PHs in wet/dry categories it may seem that it's not a case of either/or but rather more of a scale.

OP (and others) would it be possible to rate the above compounds on a scale of Dry to Wet? For example 0 being totally dry and 10 being highly Wet?

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 01:35 PM

Great post op. Repped.

Something to think about. How do you define wet? Water retention or aromatization?
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 07:53 PM

This is a post of which of the more commonly used PHs produce water weight and which do not.

Dry Compounds:

H-drol

Superdrol

Epistane

Furuza-A

11-OXO

Protodrol

Tren

Dymethazine

Stanodrol

P-mag (may have a little water weight but overall is pretty dry)

D-plex

P-Stanz

Ultradrol

Trenavar

Wet Compounds:

M14add

M-LMG

Phera Plex

Alpha one

Propadrol


^^looks kind of broscience-esque to me


I've used quite a few of those and I think a lot of this wet/dry mumbo jumbo is in people's heads, or at the very least dependent upon the user.

maybe it's just me

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:22 PM

Great post op. Repped.

Something to think about. How do you define wet? Water retention or aromatization?


I usually think of 'wet' as water retention with potential to aromatize :idunno?: How's the Trenavar solo cycle going?

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:24 PM

^^looks kind of broscience-esque to me


I've used quite a few of those and I think a lot of this wet/dry mumbo jumbo is in people's heads, or at the very least dependent upon the user.

maybe it's just me

I think compounds can be manipulated to do different things with diet and dosage, but something that is really androgenic like Protomax I would classify as 'dry' since it dries out and doesn't hold water.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:51 PM

I think compounds can be manipulated to do different things with diet and dosage, but something that is really androgenic like Protomax I would classify as 'dry' since it dries out and doesn't hold water.


you're certainly entitled to your opinion, but i will say this

just because a steroid aromatizes does not automatically mean that it'll be estrogenic(or 'wet'). Some of these aromatizable designers transform into an 'estrogen' that most of us have no idea how active (or if) they are in humans or not.

and androgenic = dry is an argument i don't feel like discussing at the moment.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:57 PM

That's a fair point, but leaving the androgenic discussion aside and focusing solely on Protomax or Androhard, would you agree that those compounds are "dry" in the sense that they do not retain water?

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:08 PM

That's a fair point, but leaving the androgenic discussion aside and focusing solely on Protomax or Androhard, would you agree that those compounds are "dry" in the sense that they do not retain water?


what do you mean by retain water? you mean the user? idk, i would think it's dependent on a lot of factors and can't easily be classified as wet or dry. it's like saying you can only be good or evil, but you can't be both

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:15 PM

The user. I've never read a log on Protomax in which people added significant weight gain from water or anything else. Same thing with epiandrosterone converting to DHT, and to my knowledge not being able to aromatize. Thoughts?

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:21 PM

Diet strongly effects whether you bloat or not on cycle. I've experienced phera producing dry gains and superdrol/dienolone precursors producing extreme amounts of water weight upwards of 30lbs! Some may have more sway in either direction dry/wet, but it really all depends on your diet.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:33 PM

The user. I've never read a log on Protomax in which people added significant weight gain from water or anything else. Same thing with epiandrosterone converting to DHT, and to my knowledge not being able to aromatize. Thoughts?


Neither can aromatize. They're 5a-reduced.

If you haven't used either, i think it's best to try them before assuming it'll be 'dry' for you. Often times things i've read on forums from bros have panned out much differently when i actually try the compound. I suppose i'm not the best person to answer your question, sorry.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:35 PM

Diet strongly effects whether you bloat or not on cycle. I've experienced phera producing dry gains and superdrol/dienolone precursors producing extreme amounts of water weight upwards of 30lbs! Some may have more sway in either direction dry/wet, but it really all depends on your diet.

I agree that diet is key, but I'm interested in the idea that "some may have more sway" towards wet/dry. I'm sure a person could cut on Dbol, but I would think that there's a reason why Anavar is the preferred cutting agent (just an example, I haven't ran either personally).
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