The copying of the references was simply to indicate that there has been other research done on the subject aside from the article I linked directly. lol @ making half-assed assumptions.
Nah, my assumption was correct, as you've just verified. You copy/pasted someone else's references without reading the papers in question yourself in an effort to lend credence to your argument. The problem is, not a single one of those references supports the claims you're making about additional bcaas. If you had read any of them you would know that.
Also, you need to make up your mind--was it an "overnight" fast, or was it "24 hours"? lol @ not even being able to retain consistency in your own post.
It was overnight, then they also got no protein post workout. Whether its overnight or 24 hours, not reflective of what the majority of us would do. This is some strong nitpicking - who gives a shit if it was 8, 12, 16 hours?
To recap - your prize reference shows that fasted, BCAAs are superior to nothing. For the record, sugar, or any other source of calories is also superior to nothing in this context. So, next time you want to prove the point that eating before or after training is superior to not eating, feel free to trot this one out. As an argument in support of the notion that ADDITIONAL BCAAs on top of an already high protein intake, with pre and post nutrition, it utterly fails. Which again, you would know, had you read the paper.
BCAA's are digested and assimilated much faster than (whole) protein sources. I challenge you to find anything showing that proves, say, Leucine for example, doesn't take much longer to be liberated (and used) from a whole protein source via digestion than from free-form BCAA.
That's a nice strawman you're building up there. No one said BCAAs aren't digested faster. The argument is, WHAT BENEFIT does that provide? If peak MPS stimulation occurs at 30mins post ingestion vs. 1hr post ingestion (as you would be with bcaa vs whey), especially when we know that there is a 3 hour refractory period before MPS can be spiked again with another threshold leucine dose?
Edited by branniganslaw, 15 April 2014 - 02:48 PM.