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#1 AestheticGrief

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 10:26 PM

Looking for something to stack my Msten with. Going to take 20mg ED for 4 weeks. Want something that is non-methylated and doesn't aromatize. 


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Posted 15 July 2014 - 06:11 AM

Try EpiAndro or 4 Andro. Both will help lean you out while providing libido and energy support.

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 06:53 AM

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 07:02 AM

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 04:22 PM

4-andro would be my choice. If the dose is reasonable you won't have to worry about aromatization. 


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Posted 15 July 2014 - 06:01 PM

I know you stated you wanted something to stack that wasn't methylated, but late this summer I am stacking 20mg msten with 25mg mithras, shit is gunna be epic.

 

As far as a non methyl, check out desoxy test. Do IM research if possible. if not, transdermal.  



#7 AestheticGrief

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 06:06 PM

So if I stack MSten with 4 andro would it make a noticeble effect on size/gains vs just taking the MSten alone ? What dosage should you stack 4 andro with ?

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 06:30 PM

Also I have slight gyno and don't want to aggravate it. I see that heavyiron said at right dosage it would aromatize. So there is possibility that it may aggravate my gyno then. 

Do you guys stack 4 andro just to minimize the sides like lost of libido and energy or do you stack it to optimize your gains ?



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Posted 15 July 2014 - 06:34 PM

 

Do you guys stack 4 andro just to minimize the sides like lost of libido and energy or do you stack it to optimize your gains ?

both.  Minimize sides=optimize gains

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 02:56 AM

What if im trying to gain mass ? Will 4 andro stack lean me out vs just taking Msten alone ? 

 

heavyiron, What dosage should I run 4 andro for to not worry about aromatization ?

 

Should I add estrogen blocker during the cycle with this stack or will it hinder gains ?

 

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 01:23 PM

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 08:49 AM

msten+food should give you the mass gains

maybe epi-andro would be a better option over 4-andro if you're trying to "lean out" and are worried about estrogen conversion/sides



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Posted 17 July 2014 - 11:03 PM

msten+food should give you the mass gains

maybe epi-andro would be a better option over 4-andro if you're trying to "lean out" and are worried about estrogen conversion/sides

tbh i dont think you need a stacker with these strong methyls. If he wants to stack i agree epi andro would be best.



#14 AestheticGrief

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 11:07 PM

Want to stack it to reduce sides like lethargy. Im not trying to lean out btw. Trying to gain mass. 



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Posted 17 July 2014 - 11:39 PM

Epi-andro should help that without any aromitisation... technically 4 andro shouldn't aromatise either until it gets to test... at least that's the idea... and really, it doesn't make that much more test when your shut down than natty production would off cycle. You should be fine on normal doses without an ai.
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#16 AestheticGrief

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 12:45 AM

Thanks! I already ordered the 4-Andro. Going to run the Msten at 20mg and 4-Andro at 100mg. Well see how it goes. Just got the 4-Andro in there for a little boost and to dodge lethargy during cycle.



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Posted 18 July 2014 - 05:15 PM

Most don't get lethargy with msten, some report energy... but everyone reacts differently.
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#18 Chris Benoit

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 06:53 AM

Yeah, I usually just stack my M-Sten with SD. Seems like the intelligent thing to do.

 

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 12:57 PM

I was thinking about stacking msten and DMZ. :)

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 07:09 PM

Gains are hard to come by, ape livers are plentiful in the jungle.

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 07:22 PM

Osta RX is perfect to stack with msten. Lean gains.




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