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#1 SLR722

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 08:43 AM

Is 5a-hydroxy-laxogenin a PH? There is almost nothing about it since its relatively new. Supposedly its supposed to be like anavar as far as a:a and increase protein synthesis by 200%? 

 

If its a PH or can shut down the HTPA wouldn't this make it extremely mild one? 



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Posted 28 October 2014 - 09:21 AM

Unlike anavar, it is not:

 

1. A PH/AAS

2. Effective for any purpose


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 10:27 AM

Not a prohormone or hormonal at all

 

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 10:54 AM

Unlike anavar, it is not:

 

1. A PH/AAS

2. Effective for any purpose

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 12:48 PM

the statement about it not being useful is a lie.it is very useful & great for strength gains & muscle fullness.the only true way to find out for oneself is to use it.


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 01:31 PM

the statement about it not being useful is a lie.it is very useful & great for strength gains & muscle fullness.the only true way to find out for oneself is to use it.

I have used products that contain it and nada happened, it comes up about once a year on the boards people talk about it and say there are studies proving it works, which though I've looked I cannot find. Its ok per WADA so that in and of itself should tell you about all you need to know


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 02:15 PM

the statement about it not being useful is a lie.it is very useful & great for strength gains & muscle fullness.the only true way to find out for oneself is to use it.


Which brand have you used?
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Posted 28 October 2014 - 03:34 PM

I definitely understand Truth,but speaking from first hand experience it worked for me.which brand/dose did you use,if it's okay to tell us? I just ran Lecheeks 5a & although it's a blend with 1-dhea,the dose that they used in the stack is definitely not enough to elicit any reasonable strength gains like I experienced & I've used 1-dhea several times at a  much higher dose.


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 03:43 PM

tbth I wish someone would just release the compound solo at the recommended dosage used in studies(I think 100mg) so we all can get to the bottom of this.


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 04:03 PM

I definitely understand Truth,but speaking from first hand experience it worked for me.which brand/dose did you use,if it's okay to tell us? I just ran Lecheeks 5a & although it's a blend with 1-dhea,the dose that they used in the stack is definitely not enough to elicit any reasonable strength gains like I experienced & I've used 1-dhea several times at a much higher dose.


How do you know how much 1Andro is in the prop blend?
300mgs of 1-Andro worked quite well in trained weight lifters.

There is only 1 study that I'm aware of using laxogenin, and it was in Russian, in rats, in god knows what kind of corrupt journal.

All I'm saying Deez is that it seems odd to attribute your gains to a rare, hard to produce compound vs. Something that has proven to be effective in weight training bros like ourselves.

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 04:04 PM

tbth I wish someone would just release the compound solo at the recommended dosage used in studies(I think 100mg) so we all can get to the bottom of this.


I thought LGI sold it as a single ingredient product.

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 05:14 PM

Some other company just released it and IIRC the dose was 100mgs

Was like $80 per bottle


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 05:35 PM

tbth I wish someone would just release the compound solo at the recommended dosage used in studies(I think 100mg) so we all can get to the bottom of this.

blackstone just did. Its called anogenin.


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 06:50 PM

I'm only guesstamating that it was a 50/50 blend.each cap was only 100mg.& if you didn't know RH I'm a big fan of 1-Andro & I've run it several ways with one of those times being dosed at minimum 300mg's so I pretty much know the effects of that compound.with the 5-A I never came close to any of the sides that come with running 1-andro like lethargy,loss of libido,nada.


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Posted 28 October 2014 - 09:24 PM

I thought LGI sold it as a single ingredient product.

No, I think they added an ingredient or two. I tried LGI's product for a month. Didn't really notice much in the way of strength or mass. Towards the final week, I thought my libido went up. But that could've been due to the other ingredients they added. I only took it for a month because it didn't really impress me. Maybe I should've gave it 8 weeks instead of 4.
Another company has this as a transdermal. I'm skeptical the stuff is worth it. Other supps I'd rather spend my money on.

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 10:18 PM

the statement about it not being useful is a lie.it is very useful & great for strength gains & muscle fullness.the only true way to find out for oneself is to use it.

 

You're right, I'm clearly a liar.



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Posted 29 October 2014 - 08:19 AM

blackstone just did. Its called anogenin.

 

The one I saw was IRON FORGED NUTRITION MOST WANTED

60 caps per bottle
Active ingredients:
Ecdysterone hydroxypropyl-β-cyclodextrin complex 225mg per capsule
Laxogenin hydroxypropyl-β-cyclodextrin complex 125mg per capsule

do not want

 

For the same price I could grab something proven like 2-3 bottles Celtic Ostabol if keeping it mild...


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 09:57 AM

^ That Most Wanted product looks like a complete waste of money.
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Posted 30 October 2014 - 03:13 PM

the statement about it not being useful is a lie.it is very useful & great for strength gains & muscle fullness.the only true way to find out for oneself is to use it.

you cant be sure that you were taking laxogenin. could have been a hormone. just sayin, i wouldn't really trust the products at this point in time.



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Posted 30 October 2014 - 03:44 PM

IRON FORGED NUTRITION, MOST WANTED,(their money back, lol)


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Posted 30 October 2014 - 09:51 PM

The one I saw was IRON FORGED NUTRITION MOST WANTED

60 caps per bottle
Active ingredients:
Ecdysterone hydroxypropyl-β-cyclodextrin complex 225mg per capsule
Laxogenin hydroxypropyl-β-cyclodextrin complex 125mg per capsule

do not want

 

For the same price I could grab something proven like 2-3 bottles Celtic Ostabol if keeping it mild...

 

Just noticed the ecdysterone in the ingredients. Tried it once many years ago the first time it was being touted as a muscle-builder. But, being human--and not an insect--I saw absolutely no gains from it. So, considering it's useless in humans (don't take my word for it--Google!), I'm now extremely suspicious of Laxogenin as well.


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Posted 30 October 2014 - 10:13 PM

Unlike anavar, it is not:

 

1. A PH/AAS

2. Effective for any purpose

"Unlike anavar, it is not"

that sounds like yoda sayin it is like anavar. lol


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 07:18 AM

The one I saw was IRON FORGED NUTRITION MOST WANTED

60 caps per bottle
Active ingredients:
Ecdysterone hydroxypropyl-β-cyclodextrin complex 225mg per capsule
Laxogenin hydroxypropyl-β-cyclodextrin complex 125mg per capsule

do not want

 

For the same price I could grab something proven like 2-3 bottles Celtic Ostabol if keeping it mild...

making a cyclodextrin out of a water soluble compound?   Yeah that makes alot of sense


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Posted 17 November 2014 - 07:47 PM

You pat check out supplement411.org you will see on the list xcel sports nutrition natural strength there 5a-hydroxy-laxogenin product contained dbol and other androgens in it as contaminates

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Posted 18 November 2014 - 09:14 AM

You pat check out supplement411.org you will see on the list xcel sports nutrition natural strength there 5a-hydroxy-laxogenin product contained dbol and other androgens in it as contaminates


Do you have to pay to see this information? I can't find it.

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