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#1 Yellowsnow

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 08:18 PM

What is an accepted/standard dosage to clean the beta 2 receptors?  25mg of Benadryl a day?



#2 Wilko

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 10:22 PM

Equally curious. I've heard this a great deal but never encountered anyone who actually used it.


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#3 BeauB

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 11:40 PM

There are several Pubmed studies addressing this.



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Posted 13 March 2015 - 06:44 AM

links?


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Posted 13 March 2015 - 12:03 PM

The data on benadryl and even ketotifen is really shaky. The studies are all done on bronchial smooth muscle cells, which are co-localized with mast cells and all the histaminergic phenomena that arise from them. There isn't really good reason to believe that antihistamines will have the same effect on the b2 receptor in skeletal muscle, but anecdote at least seems to support that they do



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Posted 28 April 2015 - 03:41 AM

From studies I've seen no. Keto up regs b2 while benadryl does nothing for them.

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Posted 08 May 2015 - 11:33 AM

From exp I'd say ketotifen upregulates them. Don't know about benadryl

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Posted 08 May 2015 - 04:38 PM

From exp I'd say ketotifen upregulates them. Don't know about benadryl

How can you tell?  Do you still get sides from Clen 3-4weeks when using keto?



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Posted 09 May 2015 - 06:13 PM

Bro science says pyramid up 1 week with clen, then pyramid down 2nd week, then run ketotifen for 2 weeks the same way without clen, rinse then repeat



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Posted 09 May 2015 - 07:23 PM

I have been doing it wrong then.  No pyramid on clen for me, but I am trying to use Keto ever day with the clen.  Why would you save it and not run the keto with the clen?



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Posted 10 May 2015 - 08:02 AM

I have been doing it wrong then. No pyramid on clen for me, but I am trying to use Keto ever day with the clen. Why would you save it and not run the keto with the clen?

It's been awhile but IIRC, I ran straight doses of clen. Did 5 days on and 2 off. Continued 6 wks and was still getting sides and benefits. I'd say effects dropped a bit.

I ran keto ed.

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Posted 27 November 2015 - 12:21 PM

I run clen 1 week on 1 week off then 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.


Let's you sneak an extra week of clen in that first month.

I don't trust ketof sources nor benadryl. I'm a simple guy so I stick to what I know will work for sure.

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Posted 27 November 2015 - 03:53 PM

I actually really started to like ketotifen as a sleep aid. Don't really have much else to add about efficacy in this application. I've been debating whether or not its neccesary though, so its somewhat positive to hear people say they don't always use it with clen.. 



#14 WrkHrdPlyHrd9999

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Posted 28 November 2015 - 09:20 AM

Never heard it used as such.

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Posted 28 November 2015 - 10:00 AM

I used both keto and benadryl and saw nothing. Now keep in mind what I was using to judge thir effectivness was increases clen sides.

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Posted 28 November 2015 - 10:39 PM

I used both keto and benadryl and saw nothing. Now keep in mind what I was using to judge thir effectivness was increases clen sides.

 

 

 

 

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 09:08 AM

I run clen starting at 20-40mcg and tapering up to 200mcg making sure the sides stay very minimal or non existent while I taper up. Run 100mg benadryl a night. It usually takes me like 4 weeks to get to 200mcg. I feel like as long as you slowly titrate up, and you don't get sides, your heart isn't beating like crazy, it's probably not as dangerous as most think. When it's dangerous is when people pop too much no tolerance and get the heart rate sides.
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Posted 05 February 2016 - 08:25 PM

100mg of benadryl every night? 

 

The more I research this some have suggested 1-2mg of keto daily  every 3 weeks for a week at a time to clean out receptors.

 

thoughts???



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Posted 06 February 2016 - 07:13 AM

100mg of benadryl every night?

The more I research this some have suggested 1-2mg of keto daily every 3 weeks for a week at a time to clean out receptors.

thoughts???

only reason I don't use the keto is hunger
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Posted 06 February 2016 - 03:06 PM

100mg of benadryl every night? 

 

 

 

 

Holy cow.

 

I took 100 mg of Benadryl one time - and that was after I had a little run in with a bee hive and was stung by about 120 bees (several years ago).  I started with 25 mg, then 25 more, then 25 more and finally the last 25.  I took it all within about an hour.  Apparently, there was so much histamine or bee poison in my body, that the Benadryl had no impact.  In fact, rather than going to sleep (and usually 25 mg wipes me out), I was able to finish mt income taxes.

 

I went to the MD the next day.  She was furious that I did not go to the ER. I've been her patient for probably 25 years, and I've never seen her so pissed off.

 

I can't imagine taking 100 mg and it not knocking you out.

 

Holy cow. 


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#21 Yellowsnow

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Posted 06 February 2016 - 04:28 PM

I can't imagine taking 100 mg and it not knocking you out.

 

Holy cow. 

I guess it is not just me................I was wondering the same thing, which is why I asked.



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Posted 06 February 2016 - 07:34 PM

only reason I don't use the keto is hunger

 

Most of the time I never realized this but if I took keto and lingered before bed, I definitely had some epic snack attacks from time to time.



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Posted 06 February 2016 - 10:59 PM

I guess it is not just me................I was wondering the same thing, which is why I asked.

 

:/ really not that crazy.


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Posted 14 February 2016 - 02:35 PM

Beau: here is an interesting nugget for you on these H1 antagonists' (Benedryl, etc) ability to cause excitability (vs somnolence).

I looked into this years ago as I would take generic diphenhydramine (Benedryl) for the purpose of sedation and it would instead, make me wired.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....ubmed/18227744/

I switched to the old/former active in NyQuil and Unisom (Doxylamine Succinate...easy procured on Amazon.com) not the new active they use (that contain diphenhydramine just like Benedryl) and while I can't take more than 1 tablet (25mg) if the Doxylamine or it also inhibits me from sleeping, it does work just fine (at or <25mg) and facilities sleep for me well. Some times at just a half-tab.

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 04:20 PM

Beau: here is an interesting nugget for you on these H1 antagonists' (Benedryl, etc) ability to cause excitability (vs somnolence).

I looked into this years ago as I would take generic diphenhydramine (Benedryl) for the purpose of sedation and it would instead, make me wired.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....ubmed/18227744/

I switched to the old/former active in NyQuil and Unisom (Doxylamine Succinate...easy procured on Amazon.com) not the new active they use (that contain diphenhydramine just like Benedryl) and while I can't take more than 1 tablet (25mg) if the Doxylamine or it also inhibits me from sleeping, it does work just fine (at or <25mg) and facilities sleep for me well. Some times at just a half-tab.

 

Wow - that is interesting.

 

Now that I think about it, my middle son would have a wired reaction to codeine, rather than it making him tired.

 

Thanks. 






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