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#1 Wesleyinman

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Posted 24 December 2015 - 11:11 AM

My thoughts on why using Straps "can" be beneficial to your training.

Feel free to debate :) Thank you!


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Posted 24 December 2015 - 11:23 AM

The only time I use straps now is for dead lifting. I'm not a fan of using an alternating grip for deads so I just use an overhand grip and add the straps when my regular grip starts to fail. I want to keep my mind on performing the lift, not keeping my grip. 


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Posted 24 December 2015 - 01:28 PM

I agree forearms may get fatigued if you are a new lifter but I can lift 6 days/week, using only fingers to hold weights and my forearms are never tired.... But I've been doing it a while. I will probably start using them soon on heavy rack pulls but I've never tried them so we'll see. If I can hold the car with just my hands I will.
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Exercise--------1RM--------@ Weight
Flat Bench-----395lbs x2---198lbs
Deadlift---------600lbs---- --210lbs
Pull-ups---------52
Pushups--------2020 in 1 set, non-stop, no knees on ground etc, in 2H 8 mins.

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Posted 24 December 2015 - 02:19 PM

I agree forearms may get fatigued if you are a new lifter but I can lift 6 days/week, using only fingers to hold weights and my forearms are never tired.... But I've been doing it a while. I will probably start using them soon on heavy rack pulls but I've never tried them so we'll see. If I can hold the car with just my hands I will.

 

That's probably from all the jerking off you do though. 


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Posted 24 December 2015 - 02:45 PM

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#6 Yellowsnow

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Posted 24 December 2015 - 03:10 PM

I try to use straps everyother time if possible.  I have found that heavy farmer walks really help strengthen the forarm and hands.



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Posted 24 December 2015 - 03:49 PM

I've always been a bit obsessed with grip training so Ive never needed straps. I typically discourage people from using them because it seems people are prone to becoming dependent on them. A weak grip seems to be a common affliction amongst lifters these days. I will use them on heavy rack pulls so I don't prematurely fatigue my hands before my actual dedicated grip training. (Coc grippers, card tearing, nail bending, etc.) Recently started using the "Goerner Ramp" method and have found it a bad ass hand strengthener.
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Posted 24 December 2015 - 04:19 PM

Unless youre a raw power lifter, you should be wearing them. Its back day!, not back and forearm day!
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Posted 24 December 2015 - 04:24 PM

Unless youre a raw power lifter, you should be wearing them. Its back day!, not back and forearm day!

i think this mentality leads to weak forearms. Never use straps and your arms will learn to cope. I think. Worked for me.
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Exercise--------1RM--------@ Weight
Flat Bench-----395lbs x2---198lbs
Deadlift---------600lbs---- --210lbs
Pull-ups---------52
Pushups--------2020 in 1 set, non-stop, no knees on ground etc, in 2H 8 mins.

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Posted 24 December 2015 - 04:32 PM

Bb'ers dont workout for strength. Failing those last few reps of back bc you lose grip is fail.
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Posted 24 December 2015 - 04:43 PM

Bb'ers dont workout for strength. Failing those last few reps of back bc you lose grip is fail.

True, but over time your forearms can adapt to handle anything your back can. At least, in my experience. I can do raw deads at 600+ and still get a great back workout in and never have tired forearms.
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Exercise--------1RM--------@ Weight
Flat Bench-----395lbs x2---198lbs
Deadlift---------600lbs---- --210lbs
Pull-ups---------52
Pushups--------2020 in 1 set, non-stop, no knees on ground etc, in 2H 8 mins.

#12 Wesleyinman

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Posted 24 December 2015 - 06:23 PM

True, but over time your forearms can adapt to handle anything your back can. At least, in my experience. I can do raw deads at 600+ and still get a great back workout in and never have tired forearms.

For strength events I have to disagree. I will rep out 600 DL with ease for half a dozen reps with straps on.  But with no straps I can only get 2-3 because my grip fails, so I would be losing several reps that the rest of my body is capable of doing.   But when I have to compete in PL, I will train heavy singles and doubles with no straps to prepare and my grip never fails on singles.

 

Also I have torn my palms/callouses so many times not wearing straps.  Never torn using straps yet.

 

But again, this is what I find to work for me.


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Posted 24 December 2015 - 06:24 PM

True, but over time your forearms can adapt to handle anything your back can. At least, in my experience. I can do raw deads at 600+ and still get a great back workout in and never have tired forearms.

 

 

If you can preform your lifts without the use of straps thats awesome man. Means your forearms, grip, are strong, real strong. I wish I could do rows, pull ups without the use of straps, they get me those last reps as Coltzy has stated.

 

Another thing I would like to add is people who's hands sweat naturally or just get sweaty in general, straps are a huge benefit to these people. Yes there is chalk but not every gym allows chalk as it makes a mess everywhere. Also gyms down south that are not climate controlled that are very humid straps are a benefit to those people at those gyms, but most gyms that are not climate controlled have or allow the use of chalk.

 

I just wanted to throw out another important use for straps.  



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Posted 24 December 2015 - 06:46 PM

For strength events I have to disagree. I will rep out 600 DL with ease for half a dozen reps with straps on. But with no straps I can only get 2-3 because my grip fails, so I would be losing several reps that the rest of my body is capable of doing. But when I have to compete in PL, I will train heavy singles and doubles with no straps to prepare and my grip never fails on singles.

Also I have torn my palms/callouses so many times not wearing straps. Never torn using straps yet.

But again, this is what I find to work for me.

I hear you. When I rep deads at whatever weight it's my back that fails 80% of the time, not my forearms. Granted I used to use captains of crush a lot and I suspect that has helped tremendously.
As you stated though, everyone's just a little different.

I should add that I have no calluses. The way I grip everything with my fingers means I never really develop any. The only exception where I have had to start wrapping my hand around the bar at all is now deads at 620. No calluses after my last session though. If I was to get close to your deads that might change though.
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Exercise--------1RM--------@ Weight
Flat Bench-----395lbs x2---198lbs
Deadlift---------600lbs---- --210lbs
Pull-ups---------52
Pushups--------2020 in 1 set, non-stop, no knees on ground etc, in 2H 8 mins.

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Posted 24 December 2015 - 08:08 PM

Straps for reads, never seen the need for any other exercises.

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Posted 24 December 2015 - 08:33 PM

i used to use them all the time for deadlifts, but recently have been doing more deads w/o them. i have to go lighter, of course. 



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Posted 24 December 2015 - 08:39 PM

It's only when y grip starts to fail.
Not from the start

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Posted 24 December 2015 - 08:43 PM

yea, i know my bro



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Posted 24 December 2015 - 08:45 PM

I guess it simply comes down to whether you need them to get the best workout you can. If you can do everything you want and not need them, then don't use them (except maybe to let your forearms rest, although I'm not sure if that's needed considering we all take days off now and then). If your grip fails them you have to decide whether you are a strength competitor in which case your grip needs more work, or a BB guy in which case straps would make sense.
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Exercise--------1RM--------@ Weight
Flat Bench-----395lbs x2---198lbs
Deadlift---------600lbs---- --210lbs
Pull-ups---------52
Pushups--------2020 in 1 set, non-stop, no knees on ground etc, in 2H 8 mins.

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Posted 24 December 2015 - 09:39 PM

Genetics gave me skinny forearms so I don't use straps.

Also I'm lazy.
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#21 Mr Taco

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Posted 24 December 2015 - 10:34 PM

Liquid chalk. Never needed straps. Then again my deads never been much above 4 plates. 



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Posted 31 March 2016 - 11:46 PM

I used to use captains of crush a lot and I suspect that has helped tremendously.


Kick ass. I'm on the 2.5 reps and have been thinking about certifying for the #3 if I can close the damn thing
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