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[Mr.50]

Guys do you know approximately how much of a dose of GH should be taken per week (how many IUS) to attempt to just reach a "replacement" dosage? Basically so that you are like an 18 year old again LOL???? And I realize if we are talking straight GH (not peptides) part of the issue will be that it will not mimic normal release patterns etc..... just looking for the best protocol to try to get to a optimal pattern and dosage of GH use that mimics most closely the endogenous optimal levels..... so first step I am looking at is how much..... then is it better to go with peps for natural release (assuming my pituitary still has a nice GH reserve at my age) or actual GH?

 

Also does anyone know what the proper blood work protocols are to verify if a particular patter of administration is getting blood levels where you want them? Like is actual GH levels post administration more important or is IGF-1 levels? etc

 

Thanks

 

 

[Mr. Ed]

i believe its about 1-2iu/day.

 

if i were you, i would probably just go with peps because if using ghrp/mod grf at saturation doses you'll only need to pin twice per day.

 

there is something to be said both about gh serum and igf, i dont know enough about it to comment though.

[frank thomas]

I run it at 4-5iu's 5days/wk. Is that replacement level? I don't know, but it works. Not Mr. Olympia levels, but recovery is great with leaner body mass (even though you may end up holding some water).

[Mr.50]

Yeah I'm just looking for the replacement level for the "feeling" rather than the actual results. I'm literally talking about replacement over the long haul vs dropping fat etc for a cycle.

I mean I agree with you totally from a results perspective Frank

[frank thomas]

http://www.ncbi.nlm..../pubmed/9814468

 

http://www.futurescience.com/hgh.html

[Mr.50]

Thanks Frank! Good reads!

[frank thomas]

Yeah, I actually haven't read those before. Interesting.

[Yellowsnow]

for pure replacement I like 1-2 iu's (everbody is different and add age to this and you will get big swings)5 days a week at night before bed.

[SLR722]

I think 2iu, split 2x a day (1iu shots) IV is supposed to best mimic pulsing. Idk how accurate this is just been told that. Why not shoot 1iu am and 1iu pm and get blood?

[WrkHrdPlyHrd9999]

http://www.futurescience.com/hgh.html

Wow. It's scary how many inaccurate statements there are in just these few paragraphs......

Pharmaceutical companies have produced a number of other promising analogs of ghrelin that restore the normal pulsatile release of growth hormone without the other unwanted effects of ghrelin. These substances include:

Hexarelin
MK-0677 (ibutamoren mesylate, developed by Merck)
Capromorelin (developed by Pfizer)
Tabimorelin
SM-130686 (Sumitomo Pharmaceuticals)
Ipamorelin (Novo Nordisk)
NN703 (Novo Nordisk. Similar to ipamorelin, but more selective)
Many of the above growth hormone releasing analogs of ghrelin are effective when taken orally. None of them are on the market anywhere in the world. Hexarelin is a peptide that is fairly easy to synthesize, and it is sometimes used outside of legitimate medical channels. The other substances on the above list are only available in rare clinical trials.

[Mr.50]

Lol